I signed paperwork that also stated I was an At-Will employee. Can’t be At-Will and a supervising manager. Pretty sure a ruling by the NLRB would lean towards the employee on this one! lol
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I believe the NLRB ruled that only Captains were considered supervisors on vessels. It’s not illegal at all for all others to unionize.
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It’s worth investigating the US Academic Research Fleet (aka UNOLS, www.unols.org). Better than 50% of the fleet is limited license, and they’re always looking for people (and will have 3 new limited license ships coming on line in the next couple of years.)
Current midpoint yearly pay at the university I work for is $85,860 for a Master or Chief Mate (we require C/Ms to have a Master’s license), $119,232 for a Chief Engineer. (These are likely to go up soon.)
But: this also includes OT, full vacation/sick leave/shore leave, sea pay, medical and retirement benefits.
The downsides: you generally have to live within a reasonable distance of the ship’s homeport, it is a year-round permanent job (at a standard 40-hour week while inport; ideal schedule for a year is 180-200 days at sea), and with research ships there is no set rotation (though most institutions try to arrange vacation schedules well in advance to get a relief and give you a reasonable break.)
The upside: it’s a lot more interesting work than hauling containers of rubber duckies from Point A to Point B. Something new every mission.
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What do their enginners make?
Assuming that was to me, 1A/E median is $5700/mo, 2A/E is $4300/mo. Same benefits.
(The Master and department heads are unclassified, everyone below is under the public employees’ union.)
The Chouest engineers signing MEBA pledge cards comment gained no traction…guess I’ll hold off putting a stack of them in the crew change lounge. then!
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In the bayou unions=communism signing a pledge card is risking a lynching.
Last time unions made an organizing effort down there the police were brought in to break up the effort. Millions were spent on an anti-union campaign. The message was clear and people haven’t forgotten. The ones that wanted better job stablity and benefits left.
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Anyone have info on Sause Bros. fuel barges in Hawaii? Wondering what a Mate’s day rate is and if they get ATO? What’s the length of hitches, company culture, etc.
Thx!
That IBU wage scale is rather underwhelming.
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What do those hourly rates translate into as weekly or monthly pay?
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Where?
Is a 12 hour shift 12 hours if straight time or is there OT after 8 hrs?
Got this email today – surprised me!
If you are making less than a MSC 3rd Mate, why aren’t you demanding a raise?
Yes, I know it’s a terrible job, but this should put ‘the office’ on alert. Lowest licensed rank, entry level unlimited tonnage is worth >$190,000.
So we let inbred morons stop us from better pay, benefits and work environment? Pretty sure the power of the anti-union bloc lost sway aproximately the same time as intimidating people of color with burning crosses at night…though it is still hard to find pillow cases on the boats, hmmm. I say bring on the descendants of former French prisoners who agreed to marry casual prostitutes for freedom and passage to Louisiana!
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on average how many days a year is a msc 3rd mate working to make that 156k?
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Just noticed this was the limited license thread. My bad!
Hawaii. Day boats. OT after 8, OT in the middle of the night etc.
How many hours do they average a week?
No no, please do! it’ll practically guarantee another pay raise… (and probably more seminars for senior officers. Though I’m sure Jay would be thankful for the work doing those)
50th state - correct
OT after 8 hrs - OT for 2200 - 0600
busy harbor = more jobs = more hrs = more $
slower harbor = less jobs = less hrs = less $