Longshoreman strike and Helene recovery

They’re really going to strike during recovery efforts from the worst or possibly the most significant natural disaster in recent memory? 120 lives lost and thousands missing still, millions without power. Very poor timing, that should go over well with the public.

Seriously, what is the training requirement to replace these low skill goons, 2-4 days of basic rigging and crane ops class followed by some basic safety briefing to start raking in $100-250k/yr to handle mooring lines or pick up containers?

These people are a complete joke, it takes 10+ overpaid and underworked longshoremen to throw off 6 mooring lines and they can’t even show up on time to do even that much.

Shutting down the ports, crying for more money and more job security? Truly pathetic, greed is a terrible and disgusting thing.

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The ILA Don said “we will cripple you” so I doubt they care that much about what is happening in the hurricane effect areas.

Some of the ILA workers are highly skilled and earn their pay, like the crane operators. But yeah, there is plenty of dead wood too.

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The way you say it doesn’t sound that bad. I thought he was going to literally send some mob goons out to bust someone knee caps or throw some people out some windows. What a relief he meant it figuratively.

Forgive me if I need to recalibrate my sarcasm meter, but it believe “we will cripple you [economically]” was where he was going with that.

But in the Port of NY/NJ the former may still be an option.

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I believe there’s a nice news clip out of there of the port of Baltimore where they may have crippled a guy and his trash truck :cowboy_hat_face:

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Huh, if you replace ILA and put in SIU, MMP or AMO, your statememt still mostly works.

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If SIU, MEBA, MMP and AMO took over the Longshoremen’s unions, they’d probably negotiate a 50% pay cut.

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We get it, you’re anti-union.

No, he’s pointing out for the hundredth time that, in general, US maritime unions do a piss poor job of representing their mariners as compared to longshore unions (many of which are “affiliated” with the maritime unions).

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Exactly that.

And, that licensed maritime officers are worth a lot more than the typical longshoreman.

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At present they are actually using mule trains with real mules to pack supplies into places where the roads are trash. Don’t know if the mules have a union or not.

with the fed having spent fema money on illegal immigrants and several more billion going to the sink hole Ukraine they probably are not going to be needing the ports much anyway. Besides, yesterday Biden said “they have all they need”!

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Rumor has it the head of the ILA was the one that had Tony Soprano taken out. :grin:

No, that was the technique used employers and police in 1934.

Since you brought it up, also a technique used by the mafia family that controls the ILA higher ups as recently as 2005. Lawrence Recci was accused & was a co-defendant with now ILA president Harold Daggett of embezzlement of ILA funds. Recci’s mafia ties were never disputed. A couple of weeks before the end of the trail when it looked like they were going to be convicted, Recci shows up missing. With Recci out of the picture the 2 other defendants were found not guilty. Recci’s decomposing body was found 6 weeks later with 5 bullets holes in the trunk of his car. The consensus was, the Genovese family were pissed at Ricci for not taking a plea agreement & thought it better to have 1 less capo than have 3 money makers in prison & out of the ILA. Worked out pretty good for the Genovese family & Daggett because Daggett later became ILA president. I got the impression from briefly dealing with those types of people, as recently as 2010, if they said they were going to cripple something they didn’t mean it figuratively.

Obviously a suicide.

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The moral of the story is, hitmen are happy pickup trucks don’t have trunks.

Maybe not the mules, but are you aware of what the Teamster’s Union started out unionizing?

No, but I’m interested. My guess is mule teams pulling big wagons like 20 Mule Team Borax.

More or less, when they first started out Teamsters drove horses and mules.

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