I don’t think this analogy holds up very well. It’s true that individual states can’t devalue their currency in response to economic conditions. However the federal government does transfer money from richer states to poorer in the form or payments to individuals in the poor states; food stamps, Medicare etc.
In the U.S. there have been large migrations, the “Okies” in the Dust Bowl, blacks from the rural south to the industrial north.
Unlike the EU far less chance of the U.S. breaking apart in a Brexit like manner, been there, done that.
couldnt possibly compare the USA and the EU
Only one civil war in the USA a long time ago, 2 in the EU and more to come…
The USA a land of people that gave up on corrupt hopeless Europe.
The USA has its share of corruption. Many EU countries score higher [less corruption] than the USA which is currently ranked at 23. Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland, Norway, Austria, UK all score in the top 20 of least corrupt countries. New Zealand and Denmark are currently tied for 1st place. Transparency International does a good objective job at tracking such things.
A consultative referendum on the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe was held in the Netherlands on 1 June 2005 to decide whether the government should ratify the proposed Constitution of the European Union. … Official results said that 61.6% of voters rejected the Constitution, on a turnout of 63.3%. The clear answer to the treaty thus was: No. However, a couple of years later the Treaty, with no important changes, was renamed and silently passed the the Dutch parliament. The people were betrayed by their leadership. Clever trick which is not forgotten.
Now Brussels wants even more money from the Dutch, we are already the largest net contributor, because of Brexit and all kinds of new green projects. Our spineless prime minister said no to it but we know he will give in in the end because he is nearing the end of his political career here and wants an European top job so a ‘no’ is no option.
Between 2000 and 2015, the Netherlands was on average the largest net contributor to the EU relative to all other EU members. The Netherlands’ average net contribution exceeded 0.4 percent of gross national income (GNI).
The politicians have betrayed us again by canceling, shortly after this referendum of which the result was not to their liking, all other future referenda. It is their way of giving the people the middle finger. It only helped to support the growing Nexit movement.
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The Advisory Referendum Act was a short lived joy. The government and the members of parliament saw the ARA as a threat to them. The people should not have control over important issues, they are not fit for that, it’s there business and decision only, no interference of simple minded people is allowed.
In the Netherlands, from the entry into force of the Advisory Referendum Act[1] (Wet raadgevend referendum) on 1 July 2015, until its repeal on 18 February 2018, most types of primary laws could be subjected to a suspensory, non-binding referendum if requested shortly after royal assent and subsequent proclamation.
Another thorn in the politicians flesh was that the outcome of another referendum
didnot approve of an Association Agreement between the Ukraine and the EU. That was mainly because the Ukraine is a totally corrupt country which you donot want to welcome as a member of your family and also to prevent chemical chickens and meat pouring freely into our marketplace. Ukrainian chicken meat producers are known to ignore all food safety rulings. Here is another one from their bag with tricks.
I think the word Nexit already existed before the Next Country to Exit. Hard to find a replacement word for our Nexit.
Hence the history of humankind. Absolutely nothing new with that statement. It’s the way it has always been with royalists, federalists, dictators supporters, lockstep party followers & so on. What I find disappointing is the followers of the 1-2% at the top don’t see themselves as the oppressors & they think by letting the bureaucrats & 1%'ers control everything they are helping the greater good. One of the US founding fathers who I respect the most who has been quoted on this site several times, Alexander Hamilton, was a strong advocate of the USA having a monarchy instead of an elected president because he didn’t trust the peasants from where he came. Was his intention good? Yes. Was he right about everything? Absolutely not.
So once the Netherlands leaves the EU the citizens will have more say in the county’s affairs because local politicians will have more control… but local politicians are stopping that from happening? I think that argument has a bit of a hole in it.
Meanwhile the Cod and other cold water species will migrate north with the increasing water temperature in the English part of the North Sea.
The Scots will make a deal with their northern neighbours and secure a quota for their modern fishing fleet.
The English can fight for the remaining resources in their diminished territorial waters. Don’t expect any charity from anybody.
I suppose the only thing worse than having local corrupt power hungry politicians screwing you over at the local level is having local corrupt power hungry politicians in cahoots with like minded villains in other countries screwing you over internationally too?
Dutch fisherman are mainly stemming from ultra religious tightly knit fishing communities but despite that they are frauding all over the place with quota, over fishing with electric pulse techniques, especially shrimp overfishing also because government oversight is absent for the most part. They surely are going to put the British to the test.
The Dutch trawler Annelies Ilena, 144.9 m length, Gross Tonnage: 14055 t, can empty the sea in no time. Probably for tax reasons the ship is sailing under the flag of Poland. They don’t like to contribute to the Dutch economy.
Hamilton could never be elected in the US now, too politically incorrect. He wasn’t even born in the USA and he was a bastard child. He was very bright and contributed a great deal to the Federalist Papers. His more extreme ideas were refined by calmer minds but he still left a notable imprint on the USA. Dying before the age of 50 in a duel was a sad lack of judgement.
