What are the best methods of researching vessel data when they are no longer listed in vessels of the US due to name change or removal from documentation? There must be records of these vessels by former name or former documentation status.
Uscg PSIX. Can be a nuisance to use but with practice has good info.
[QUOTE=z-drive;177512]Uscg PSIX. Can be a nuisance to use but with practice has good info.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I found some of what I was looking for.
Yes, lots of fun reading material can be found there to kill time on the back-watch.
[QUOTE=z-drive;177526]Yes, lots of fun reading material can be found there to kill time on the back-watch.[/QUOTE]
Tim Colton’s site is very helpful, if you scan every vessel ever built for awhile.
It really surprises me that it is Not possible to search Mercant Vessels of the US online for vessels that are no longer actively documented, or for active vessels that have had a name change, if you don’t know the new name.
[QUOTE=z-drive;177526]Yes, lots of fun reading material can be found there to kill time on the back-watch.[/QUOTE]
You may want to try this private vessel search site: http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/
It got both info and history for existing and vessels no longer in existence for whatever reason. It is flag neutral, not only US.
Equasis give up to date info on ships in class by whichever society and MoU updates: http://www.equasis.org/EquasisWeb/public/HomePage
[QUOTE=ombugge;177530]You may want to try this private vessel search site: http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/
It got both info and history for existing and vessels no longer in existence for whatever reason. It is flag neutral, not only US.
Equasis give up to date info on ships in class by whichever society and MoU updates: http://www.equasis.org/EquasisWeb/public/HomePage[/QUOTE]
Both are a good source. Miramar costs a bit, but worth it if doing any research. Class societies are getting tough, but look around www.eagle.org for ABS Classed vessels (not necessarily US flag).
For example, I am trying to find the official number and gross tonnage of a barge named CERES.
As best I can recall, CERES was originally an LST (probably WWII era) that was wrecked in B.C. in the 60’s. She Was rebuilt at Esquimalt into a grain barge. She was about 380’ long with a very high deck house and about 17,000 GRT. At one time she was apparently Canadian flag and may have been named Seaspan 245. Later, she was owned by Carnation and flagged US, and as I recall, had an ABS load line. She probably was not Classed. She was a wild towing model bow barge and gained some notarity in the mid-80’s for doing repeated major damage to West Coast railroad bridges. I assume that she has either sunk or been scrapped by now.
It surprises me that I can not simply search CERES in the 1985 Merchant Vessels of the U.S. To find her official number and gross tonnage. As far as I can tell, only currently active vessels can be searched in the online Merchant Vessels of the U.S. Also, only the current name can be searched.
On PSIX you can search for “out of service” but I’m assuming you have already done so.
Yes. Your tip on using PSIX helped me to find some vessels after name changes and or scrapping, but several others, including CERES have thus far eluded me.
I’m kind of hoping for a PM from someone who knew CERES.
There has to be a way to search 1985 Merchant Vessels of the US. It may take a FOIA request.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;177561]Yes. Your tip on using PSIX helped me to find some vessels after name changes and or scrapping, but several others, including CERES have thus far eluded me.
I’m kind of hoping for a PM from someone who knew CERES.
There has to be a way to search 1985 Merchant Vessels of the US. It may take a FOIA request.[/QUOTE]
G.T. IRONMASTER now?
See page two: http://www.marcon.com/library/sales_reports/2009sales.pdf
There is a PSIX entry under this name–two actually, 642681 appears official number.
That’s it. Great catch. Thank you.
Obviously, I need to start reading back issues of Bob Beagle’s newsletter.
That worked so well ---- Anyone know the barge SHARK?
I think it was built by Zidell in the early 80’s. It was one of the first barges with “hydrolift Skegs” m . It was a flat deck barge with with a typical west coast wavebreak forward, about 270 to 280 feet long, probably 80 something feet wide, and had four ballast tanks that had to be filled or emptied by the tug’s portable pump. ABS load line and USCG inspected. Possibly, ABS classed. Whoever owned it, they just leased it out to various operators.
If you’re doing it for your company you could always convince them to purchase access to IHS’ SeaWeb database which is what I use.
https://www.ihs.com/products/sea-web-maritime-reference.html
[QUOTE=tugsailor;177570]That’s it. Great catch. Thank you.
Obviously, I need to start reading back issues of Bob Beagle’s newsletter.
That worked so well ---- Anyone know the barge SHARK?
I think it was built by Zidell in the early 80’s. It was one of the first barges with “hydrolift Skegs” m . It was a flat deck barge with with a typical west coast wavebreak forward, about 270 to 280 feet long, probably 80 something feet wide, and had four ballast tanks that had to be filled or emptied by the tug’s portable pump. ABS load line and USCG inspected. Possibly, ABS classed. Whoever owned it, they just leased it out to various operators.[/QUOTE]
KENAI TRADER. 645500
gunderson marine 1982, ex-SHARK
http://www.lynden.com/aml/tools/equipment/marine-equipment/kenai.html
thats all the freebies you get.
[QUOTE=Jamesbrown;177577]KENAI TRADER. 645500
gunderson marine 1982, ex-SHARK
http://www.lynden.com/aml/tools/equipment/marine-equipment/kenai.html
thats all the freebies you get.[/QUOTE]
Oh. You are good.
[QUOTE=cmakin;177537]Class societies are getting tough…[/QUOTE]
For ships still in service, the following databases are freely available:
DNV: http://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx DNV
GL: http://app.gl-group.com/register/index.jsp GL
RMRS: http://info.rs-head.spb.ru/webFS/regbook/regbookVessel?ln=en
BV: http://www.veristar.com/wps/portal/registerSeaGoingShips BV
ClassNK: http://www.classnk.or.jp/hp/register/regships/regships.asp ClassNK
LR: http://www.lrshipsinclass.lrfairplay.com/ (free registration required)
For Miramar, I think you can still get a 7-day free trial. Sea-web is of course probably the best, but that’s why it’s also probably the most expensive…
[QUOTE=Tups;177661]For ships still in service, the following databases are freely available:
DNV: http://exchange.dnv.com/exchange/main.aspx DNV
GL: http://app.gl-group.com/register/index.jsp GL
RMRS: http://info.rs-head.spb.ru/webFS/regbook/regbookVessel?ln=en
BV: http://www.veristar.com/wps/portal/registerSeaGoingShips BV
ClassNK: http://www.classnk.or.jp/hp/register/regships/regships.asp ClassNK
LR: http://www.lrshipsinclass.lrfairplay.com/ (free registration required)
For Miramar, I think you can still get a 7-day free trial. Sea-web is of course probably the best, but that’s why it’s also probably the most expensive…[/QUOTE]
And ABS:
http://www.eagle.org/safenet/record/record_vesselsearch
The Lloyd’s Register (printed) used to list ALL vessels, Lloyds classed or not. Not sure if their online database works that way. Remember, some of these sites other than Class (or P&I Clubs, another good resource) could have faulty info. I have also seen inaccurate info on Class sites, too.