Foreign Flgged Vessels and Crews working in the GOM

Here’s HOS Achiever fresh out of yard following floatel conversion. Note heave comp gangway on stern. Floatel work has its own challenges- not interesting subsea work but its a job.

[QUOTE=tugsailor;129490]What kind of schedule do you usually work in Norway?[/QUOTE]
You work 1:1 on Norwegian ship’s, the only difference is where in the world the ship is operating.
28:28 in Europa and 42:42 in Brazil, GoM and Africa. In Asia it is common to work 56:56 or 84:84.

[QUOTE=Traitor Yankee;129499]That’s a good question. I don’t see why more of these companies don’t make a concerted push to dominate that section of the domestic market. My only thoughts being that the American owned, crewed vessels could possibly be less likely to gain work overseas. However vessels like the Blue Orca put that out of my mind.[/QUOTE]

I went to OMSA with that concern that even if the foreign vessels had a “legal” right to work in the GoM, they don’t have an automatic pass to work without American mariners and that companies like HOS or ECO could take over the manning of these vessels for the foreign owners. Just more money for Joe Boss and you’d think they’d be all over that, but all I got was a “we’re not interested” from them.

Until someone with the muscle flexes it in Washington at USCG HQ or in Congress then nothing will change. I say a suit in Federal Court is demanded but who’s gonna pay all the legal fees? OMSA could as could the unions but they are utterly useless turds (I went to them as well and the response I got particularly from the AMO was downright disrespectful…FUCKING ASSHOLES THAT BUNCH OF MAFIA THUGS! Your PAC money hard at work boys!)

[QUOTE=c.captain;129530]I went to OMSA with that concern that even if the foreign vessels had a “legal” right to work in the GoM, they don’t have an automatic pass to work without American mariners and that companies like HOS or ECO could take over the manning of these vessels for the foreign owners. Just more money for Joe Boss and you’d think they’d be all over that, but all I got was a “we’re not interested” from them.

Until someone with the muscle flexes it in Washington at USCG HQ or in Congress then nothing will change. I say a suit in Federal Court is demanded but who’s gonna pay all the legal fees? OMSA could as could the unions but they are utterly useless turds (I went to them as well and the response I got particularly from the AMO was downright disrespectful…FUCKING ASSHOLES THAT BUNCH OF MAFIA THUGS! Your PAC money hard at work boys!)[/QUOTE]

The OMSA isn’t going to say anything because they are comprised of the supply boat companies which work for the oil companies and the oil companies would tell them to back off. AMO honchos are probably taking advance payoffs to not say anything. SIU isn’t going to say anything because they are scared of yellow signs and they know the people in the bayou think union members are disciples of the anti-Christ because Fox and Gary told them so. MEBA isn’t going to pick that fight either for the same reason as the SIU and it would be very expensive with little return as so many of the engineers are from Maine which is like the bayou but a little whiter.
Eventually one of the OSV companies will build a pipelay ship or two. Torch Offshore built two that are working now but Torch imploded.
Most people don’t even know about the USA offshore oil industry unless it washes up on the beach or someone mentions paying another $.05/gal for gas. The politicians are owned by the oil companies. It is all about the oil companies and the politicians neither of which give a damn about the US mariner.

I’m from Maine, and my pet moose says go shit in your hat, chummy.

And now the LEWEK FALCON just arrived in Galvatraz…

[QUOTE=tengineer1;129545]The OMSA isn’t going to say anything because they are comprised of the supply boat companies which work for the oil companies and the oil companies would tell them to back off. AMO honchos are probably taking advance payoffs to not say anything. SIU isn’t going to say anything because they are scared of yellow signs and they know the people in the bayou think union members are disciples of the anti-Christ because Fox and Gary told them so. MEBA isn’t going to pick that fight either for the same reason as the SIU and it would be very expensive with little return as so many of the engineers are from Maine which is like the bayou but a little whiter.
Eventually one of the OSV companies will build a pipelay ship or two. Torch Offshore built two that are working now but Torch imploded.
Most people don’t even know about the USA offshore oil industry unless it washes up on the beach or someone mentions paying another $.05/gal for gas. The politicians are owned by the oil companies. It is all about the oil companies and the politicians neither of which give a damn about the US mariner.[/QUOTE]

What does Maine have to with any of this? The only union with any spare money is the SIU, and that is only in the pockets of Sacco and his crew. It’s certainly not in the pockets of the mariners or the pensioners.

AMO’s pension is frozen, and MMP and MEBA have just negotiated long term contracts with pension and pay cuts attached.

As a whole, the latter 3 unions are more worried about MSP funding than anything else, especially MMP/MEBA.

The 3 officer unions have no concerns of foreign mariners working in the oil patch because they have no foothold in the OSV or drillship market where Americans are employed.

Don’t see any of that changing probably ever.

[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;129549]What does Maine have to with any of this? [/QUOTE]

I think he is saying attitudes in Maine are similar to the Bayou. He has it wrong however. The culture in New England tends to be less hierarchical then that of the South. Colin Woodward has an explanation here.

“Until someone with the muscle flexes it in Washington at USCG HQ or in Congress then nothing will change.”

That is the problem, no person/group has the muscle. Sorry to be pessimistic, but it will never change.

[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;129550]I think he is saying attitudes in Maine are similar to the Bayou. He has it wrong however. The culture in New England tends to be less hierarchical then that of the South. Colin Woodward has an explanation here.[/QUOTE]

Actually he was joking completely with his friends in both places. I do think Woodward pretty much nailed the US “nations”. Thanks for the link.

But where is Dumbfuckistan?

[QUOTE=tengineer1;129563]Actually he was joking completely with his friends in both places. I do think Woodward pretty much nailed the US “nations”. Thanks for the link.[/QUOTE]

Woodward also wrote The Republic of Pirates which I enjoyed as well.

As for the joking, yes, I started with the assumption that moose make poor pets and worked it back from there.

Mynd you, møøse bites kan be very nasti.

[QUOTE=Flyer69;129583]Mynd you, møøse bites kan be very nasti.[/QUOTE]

Mynd you, bites of møøse meat kan be very tasti.

[QUOTE=Flyer69;129583]Mynd you, møøse bites kan be very nasti.[/QUOTE]

You should not have posted that! You do realize what the consequences will be now…don’t you"

//youtu.be/6674ozx16D0

soon you will be sacked!

signed, Yutte Hemsgervordenbrotborda

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[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;129586]Mynd you, bites of møøse meat kan be very tasti.[/QUOTE]

Don’t they serve moose killed on the Alaska Railroad to the inmates in Seward along with Nutriloaf?

YUMMI!

[QUOTE=c.captain;129588]

Don’t they serve moose killed on the Alaska Railroad to the inmates in Seward along with Nutriloaf?

YUMMI![/QUOTE]

Don’t know, could be. I do know that they do serve road kill moose meat in the elementary school cafeteria here in Maine. Or at least they did when I was a kid. Yumm yumm

[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;129597]Don’t know, could be. I do know that they do serve road kill moose meat in the elementary school cafeteria here in Maine. Or at least they did when I was a kid. Yumm yumm[/QUOTE]

ha, ha…

//youtu.be/anwy2MPT5RE

Maine Roadkill, Best meal they had all month.

Met some Brits in the NOLA airport that work on a Stena drillship drilling for Statoil in the US GOM. The guys I talked to said that the only Americans on board were 3rd party service hands. How come some GOM rigs have full American crews and others don’t? They said that most of the drilling folks were from the UK and the mariners were all Eastern European or Swedish.

[QUOTE=Kougar018;129697]Met some Brits in the NOLA airport that work on a Stena drillship drilling for Statoil in the US GOM. The guys I talked to said that the only Americans on board were 3rd party service hands. How come some GOM rigs have full American crews and others don’t? They said that most of the drilling folks were from the UK and the mariners were all Eastern European or Swedish.[/QUOTE]

because of a loophole in 33CFRpart141 that allows foreign owned vessels/rigs that do not have US offices to keep their foreign crews supposedly because their countries offer US vessels reciprocity to keep US manning on a US vessel working in their waters but this is BULLSHIT because they DON’T!