“Guest” what if a really good DPO doesn’t want to leave his family for 18 weeks to get a 3/m’s license?
Capt. John - can you get rid of this stupid “Guest” feature and make people sign up for an account? Won’t it help your stats if you do?
Jeff,
Yes it would help stats and yes I encourage everyone to sign-up but I don’t want to limit the number of comments. The software also makes us “hand approve” all applications which can take time… some people never remember to try signing in again the next day.
John & CM Jeff,
I agree that any point of view deserves being posted for the sake of content. Agree or disagree, but the value might be in the actual rebuttal, not the “guest” post. Besides, I agree with the guest. Reading comprehension also helps. The term “willing” doesn’t mean “mandated” and the term “availble” doesn’t mean “required”. I read the post as having a choice to getting a mates license by vertue of being a DP operator and having (company X) foot the bill. Sounds like a damn good idea being I’m in cargo class at the Star-Center right now on my own dollar (as my choice)
You’re right in having someone pick up the bill being a <strong>very </strong>nice
perk some companies offer. I think my C/M classes cost them a total of
over $40k after flights/hotels/tuition/rental cars… I’m not sure I
would have completed them otherwise.
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Anchorman, Hope you do well in your class. Surely your company is at least paying you a partial salary or expenses while you’re in school. They will benefit won’t they?
I’m paying for everything…I’ll get the tuition back in a few years provided I’m still with the company.
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An electronic technician will not be able to manually hold station regardless of his DP capabilities. There is no way in hell that a DPO should not be licensed. Safety, Safety, Safety, until it cost some bucks or becomes inconvenient.
“An electronic technician will not be able to manually hold station regardless of his DP capabilities” Really? Neither would anyone else UNLESS your talking about workboats, but in that case you have to know how to handle a boat to begin with…and I’m sure we both agree that our ability to hold station manually has squat to do with a DP license. An ET with reguard to MODUs and Drill Ships would be …Safety, Safety, SAfety…because he could troubleshoot failures and maintain the required redundancy needed for a DP Class 3 installation.
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“ability to hold station manually has squat to do with a DP license”. Are you kidding me, the ability to hold station has everything to do with a DP license on a MODU. There have been many of disconnects avoided by f*$% the computer and just going on joystick until you can figure out the problem. Incidents like just happened on the CR Luigs would have been alot cheaper for the company if the guy would have got on the stick for a few minutes and figured out his problem before going to red. And by the way, the ability to joystick has nothing to do with the license you hold, only practice on the stick on that ship/rig/MODU. If a DPO does not practice sticking the ship, he is useless. The stick should only be used as a last resort, but with all the rigs that hit red every year due to settings, operator error, sensor failure, controller failure that resort has been ignored.
Look-e-hear rookie. Your perspective is showing your rookiness. Start with manual controls (each individual thruster) for 5 years (real shiphandling) , then at the advent of auto-head and the “stick” (what a luxury) log about 8 years of station keeping (no DP), and then go to full DP…so nice. And, then ask if I’m kidding… F*CK NO I’M NOT KIDDING. <strong>“ability to hold station manually has squat to do with a DP license”.</strong> One more time, <strong>“ability to hold station manually has squat to do with a DP license”.</strong>
If you really think a DP license …“a freaking certificate” can make someone a good station keeper, better find something with anchors in a hurry.
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I agree with anchorman on this one… In fact any price of paper issued by stuck up liners is useless!
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<p> <span><font face=“Times New Roman” size=“3” color="#000000"> </font></span><span style=“font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’”>I am a </span><span style=“font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’”>DPO</span><span style=“font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’”> without a license. I have been to a few USCG classes and DP classes with licensed officers that were total idiots. Anyone that thinks that a piece of paper means that you are safer (Capt. Lee) is sadly mistaken. Experience and attitude is the key to safety. Anyone can handle a ship. It is not rocket science. I am sorry to bust the ring knockers bubble. And since we are on the subject of ring knockers I find that a hawse piper’s have experience on their side and make superior officers in most cases. They are also usually much more willing to share their knowledge with the inexperienced DPO. </span> </p> <p> <span style=“font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’”></span> </p>
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I believe dpojean was the guest or moron who screwed up his post. He must be one of the idiots the guest was talking about. I would have to agree with Capt. Lee only licensed personnel should be on the bridge.
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I would have to agree with the last guest. DPOJean sounds like an inexperienced dpo who has a chip on his shoulder about license and education. If dpojean wants to make a real dpo he should attend some of the classes that licensed dpos have and then we will see what he has to say about licensed dynamic positioning officer’s.
Until the USCG requires certified DPOs on classed vessels, it only matters to the client. You have to prove yourself regardless of what piece of paper you feel like waving over you head…bottom line.
DPO is a <strong>certification</strong>, not a<strong> license</strong>. Can't believed I got suckered into repeating that!! There's no such thing!!<strong>Guest:</strong>
I agree with Jean, and don’t think he has a chip on his shoulder. Also, Transocean isn’t the only company that hires non licensed DPOs. The guest that said that is obviously a n00b. By the way, it doesn’t help when someone with a Master’s license hits the Standby button with his elbow having no clue what he just did. (He was from KP too)…
I have a license, and work with people from all backgrounds. Some are cool, some are complete head cases, and pretty much all think they are the best DPO to walk the earth. Being a DPO has to do with a lot of things, especially situational awareness. I’ve never had to go into “joystick mode” to save the day, and been doing this for nine years.
I sure could use some TV now, being stuck out here for Christmas. Ah those were the days.
Merry Christmas