Deepwater Horizon - Transocean Oil Rig Fire

[QUOTE=bigmoose;40980]Intersting… I am not sure we ever talked about a collapsed riser section? Perhaps it was just me that didn’t know a section collapsed or imploded upon the drill pipe.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49500978@N04/4729566389/in/photostream/
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Not surprising really [B]bigmoose[/B]… given that gas initially errupted around the rig, then if there was no riser fill-up tool at the bottom of the riser to fill the void created from that expanding gas with seawater, then riser will collapse in 5000ft of water with a reduced hydrostatic pressure inside it.

“His body was found Sunday night in a hot tub at his home on the island. An autopsy by the state medical examiner’s office concluded Monday that he died from accidental drowning with heart disease as a contributing factor.”

http://www.bangordailynews.com/story/Midcoast/Ocean-Energy-Institute-founder-Bush-adviser-drowns-in-New-Haven,150882

An autopsy by the state medical examiner’s office concluded Monday that he died from accidental drowning. No toxicology reports could be available yet, but the determination has been made.

He drowned in a hot tub?

C’mon BP, you can do better than that.

I’m sorry, I know most of you don’t care for Matt Simmons, but when the man that rode BP’s ass since April 20th drowns in a hot tub, well excuse the hell out of me for thinking this smells like shit.

At this point in time I don’t give a damn if BP blows up the planet.

“At this point in time I don’t give a damn if BP blows up the planet.”

I don’t understand why you would say this. (I’m not asking- just puzzled what his passing has to do with the success or failure of the recovery of the GOM)

Regardless of whether this is an ‘odiferous coincidence’ or an act of nature, Mr Simmons’ physical appearance didn’t portray him as a “health nut”. He did have heart problems, as quoted to wlbz2 television in Bangor, Maine. I bet NOLA will back me up that when a person has cardiovascular problems, they are cautioned about hot tubs, specifically. In addition, he must have had a very high strung/ high stress life considering his involvement in finance, etc.

I was not impressed by him because he had an axe to grind. His call to “nuke” the DWH spill and the fact that he stood to gain a great deal from the price boost “peak oil” could bring were enough to set off my skepticism. I didn’t know that he stood to profit mightily from the offshore wind turbines he was pushing for; converting his Ocean Energy Institute from non profit to a for profit venture. (:sniff, sniff…wince: )
This is just a little too Al Gore for me.

source:
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=123586&catid=3

God will Decide whether he rests in peace or not. I’m sorry for his loved ones, though. Investing is just gambling after all: you pays your money & you takes your chances

ETA to fix smile to wince

I almost got caught up, in the Matt Simmons, story,; but thanks to some friends, here,who know THE FACTS, I m on solid ground, now. I think we tend to get caught up in the story, and not the reality. < I know I m vulnerable>,It would make a good movie,tho,with the likes of russel crowe, , thanks , my friends.

Adm Thad Allen leaving his post, at the end of Sept. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h515vonk67er3JoMP__IwfFKo0OwD9HHFC6G5 http://blog.al.com/live/2010/08/thad_allen_preparing_to_leave.html

Weekly Leader podcast 60 interviews Captain John Konrad : http://sea-fever.org/2010/07/30/weekly-leader-podcast-60-captain-john-konrad-gcaptain-com-on-the-deepwater-horizon-sinking/

For those who may be interested, I posted another write-up on my website today in my series about the Macondo well blowout. This one is about the Coast Guard/ BOEMRE Joint Investigation Team and the results of the July hearings. Following is the link.

www.energytrainingresources.com

Paul Parsons
President, Energy Training Resources, LLC

Great article,the well may not be ‘dead’ after all http://dailyhurricane.com/2010/08/adm-allen-confused---so-now-is-everybody-else.html Any comments?

One day soon there will be a notice here (I hope) that says “we now return this forum to the mariners it was created for”.

[QUOTE=jthomas1600;41096]One day soon there will be a notice here (I hope) that says “we now return this forum to the mariners it was created for”.[/QUOTE]

This is not only a mariner forum, it is a forum of science, mathamatics, physics, debate,

camarderie, education, knowlege, and diligence. It is a forum of professionals, laymen, and

whoever else is interested in the industry.

[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;41093]Great article,the well may not be ‘dead’ after all http://dailyhurricane.com/2010/08/adm-allen-confused---so-now-is-everybody-else.html Any comments?[/QUOTE]

Very interesting [B]NOLA[/B]. Thanks for the link. (I have to question (caution about) the facts in this report because I/we are unable to verify them)… however…

[B]ANY pressure buildup now, after the static kill, means the original DWH well is not dead![/B]
[B]The relief well is still (and always was) needed.[/B]

Just what bp achieved with the “static kill” is anyone’s guess as no info was released (as far as I know or have seen). Just like you, me and everyone else… they (bp) can’t see down that hole, and so they have to guess what’s happening.

bp obviously want to “jump on the band wagon” and pronounce to the world that “everything is good” because it serves their interests everywhere and diverts the press away from them onto other news from around the world.

[QUOTE=jthomas1600;41096]One day soon there will be a notice here (I hope) that says “we now return this forum to the mariners it was created for”.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it did start off that way… as a forum for Mariners.

However, gcaptain was one of the first to start reporting/recording this disaster, and one thread has for the last few months been focused on the Macondo well and various things associated with that disaster.

Mariners are also involved in offshore drilling.

This thread has been a great source of info, enlightenment and sometimes downright entertainment with its content… but the fact still remains… it is one of only a few sites with accurate info on what’s going on. You and I, and everyone else needs to understand what happened here, and hopefully we can all learn.

The forum should carry on this way until such times as the real truth emerges as to what actually happened on the 20th April and the days and months preceding.

Thereafter… well who really knows what direction the forum will take?.

[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;41093]Great article,the well may not be ‘dead’ after all http://dailyhurricane.com/2010/08/adm-allen-confused---so-now-is-everybody-else.html Any comments?[/QUOTE]

[B]“The press is confused; the public is[/B] (now)[B] bored.”[/B]

This has been bp’s ultimate goal since day 1… ie TOTAL CONTROL.

… look back thru’ the posts on this forum and you (and everyone else likewise) will see numerous people with expertise 'throwing their arms up in the air" trying to understand what has been going on.

Those that control the information also control how the general public will react to that information.

For some good day-to-day info on what’s happening down at the seabed… the guys on…

http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.php/topic,68178.7710.html

…have been providing some excellent work.

Keep up the good work guys. I for one am interested in what you see and are keeping watch over.

Regarding the change in ROV camera feeds since the cementing, a BP contractor has been in contact with us to do some subcontract work. (Really more like unreachable bait). A member of their seismic survey team for work near the Macondo wellhead, indicated they have had to do quite a few unscheduled surveys to inspect ROV “anomaly” findings in the immediate vicinity of the wellhead. Other inadvertent “info drops” by this person indicate a number of oil/gas seeps have opened in the area since the cap was shut in. Given all the testimony in the hearings documenting severe instability of the strata around the well during its drilling, how could it do anything else but fracture further when they decided to “pressure test” it.

Just speculation, but one possible reason why the gov’t is so accommodating of BP’s actions (besides the most obvious one of keeping us supplied with cheap petroleum and its by-products), can be found at the DOE NETL Methane Hydrate Reference Shelf on line at: http://www.netl.doe.gov/technologies/oil-gas/FutureSupply/MethaneHydrates/MH_ReferenceShelf/RefShelf.html
http://www.netl.doe.gov/technologies/oil-gas/publications/Hydrates/2009Reports/NT41268_FinalReport.pdf
[U][I]and[/I][/U]
DOE Award #: FWP FEAB111 Hydrate Formation and Dissociation via Depressurization in Simulated and Field Samples 2007 – Topical report: Experimental formation of massive hydrate deposits from accumulation of CH4 (methane) gas bubbles with synthetic and natural sediments- available on line at the first link.

Has anyone posted the 2005 NOAA/ BP paper on a very similar accident from 2003 in the Thunder Horse field when a riser was sheared in 6,000 + feet of water and nearly resulted in the same incident as the DWH. It was presented at the 2005 International Oil Spill Conference and can be found at: http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/book_shelf/1287_Thunder%20Horse.pdf

Hope some find the above reading of interest.

[QUOTE=jthomas1600;41096]One day soon there will be a notice here (I hope) that says “we now return this forum to the mariners it was created for”.[/QUOTE]

This thread of the gCaptain forum is titled Deepwater Horizon-Transocean Oil Rig Fire and it is under the subtitle of “offshore”. This portion of gCaptain was created by gCaptain for those either working in the offshore oil industry or interested in what is going on out there. Everyone is welcome to participate or ignore any part of any online forum. It’s freedom of choice in action.
If you have another topic you’d like to explore you can click +Post New Thread or you can start your own website or you can get up on the other side of the bed tomorrow.http://gcaptain.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

Here is an ROV video, post up your interpretations, if you care to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kx4m-liq_4

Ersmoore, Thank - you for your post. I do recall the thunderhorse report, on this thread, several weeks ago, and we can not learn enough, from revisiting the facts, to learn, and prevent such mishaps, again. I feel, the 11 men, who perished, deserve that much.

[QUOTE=bigmoose;41117]Here is an ROV video, post up your interpretations, if you care to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kx4m-liq_4[/QUOTE] Moose, here s another video http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/must-see-intriguing-closeup-footage-of-twister-on-seafloor-comments-video showing ‘seeps’ Question: are seeps like this “natural” on the seabed?,Your video, appears from poss rov movement, and makes me wonder, if the rov operator was tempted to entertain us for friday the 13th.

First there’s this

"Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick in spots. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given.

“There’s a shocking amount of oil in the deep water, relative to what you see in the surface water,” said Samantha Joye, a researcher at the University of Georgia who is involved in one of the first scientific missions to gather details about what is happening in the gulf. “There’s a tremendous amount of oil in multiple layers, three or four or five layers deep in the water column.”

Then there’s this

NOAA has repeatedly denied the existence of underwater oil plumes (see this and this), calculated the spill to be only 5,000 barrels a day, and buried core data on the oil spill.

Now, university scientists have revealed the NOAA used strong-arm tactics to try to silence any information on underwater plumes. As the St. Petersburg Times reports:

The reaction that [the University of South Florida] announcement [of the discovery of huge underwater plumes] received from the Coast Guard and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the federal agencies that sponsored their research:

Shut up.

“I got lambasted by the Coast Guard and NOAA when we said there was undersea oil,” USF marine sciences dean William Hogarth said. Some officials even told him to retract USF’s public announcement, he said, comparing it to being “beat up” by federal officials.

The USF scientists weren’t alone. Vernon Asper, an oceanographer at the University of Southern Mississippi, was part of a similar effort that met with a similar reaction. “We expected that NOAA would be pleased because we found something very, very interesting,” Asper said. “NOAA instead responded by trying to discredit us. It was just a shock to us.”

NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco, in comments she made to reporters in May, expressed strong skepticism about the existence of undersea oil plumes — as did BP’s then-CEO, Tony Hayward.

“She basically called us inept idiots,” Asper said. “We took that very personally.”

Lubchenco confirmed Monday that her agency told USF and other academic institutions involved in the study of undersea plumes that they should hold off talking so openly about it. “What we asked for, was for people to stop speculating before they had a chance to analyze what they were finding,” Lubchenco said. “We think that’s in everybody’s interest. … We just wanted to try to make sure that we knew something before we speculated about it.”

“We had solid evidence, rock solid,” Asper said. “We weren’t speculating.” If he had to do it over again, he said, he’d do it all exactly the same way, despite Lubchenco’s ire.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20575

Now, tell me this doesn’t make sense to you.

[B]Dr. Tom Termotto, BCIM
National Coordinator
Gulf Oil Spill Remediation Conference

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Rest in peace, Matt Simmons.