BP Haiku, for Alcor the Magnificent:
Bright Shining Goddess.
BP, our Princess of Light.
Murder, she wrote.
[QUOTE=Texanne;39705]I have had better and more interesting insults from middle school students.[/QUOTE]
Cleopatra, came from a long line of incestuous relationships, and therefore, not particularly beautiful in the common understanding of beauty nowadays. She managed to woo Caesar and ten years later, Anthony. She had children to both Caesar and Anthony.
What a woman she was to use all her feminine intuition to engage the elite amongst enemies with her womanly charm. She was an admirable goddess, of course!
[QUOTE=AyeCaptain;39707]BP Haiku, for Alcor the Magnificent:
Bright Shining Goddess.
BP, our Princess of Light.
Murder, she wrote.[/QUOTE]
The simple mind is appeased yet again. No need to look any further. We have our guilty party. Just make sure he pays the bill. A typical cultural trait!
If it were not for the facts of intentional, arrogant stance, which has the mind set, of blatant negligence, then I would say…an accident like the airplane crash, and so forth. Then, yest. I read the autopsies, of the turtles, showed,changes in their blood cells, rupturing, and causing internal hemhorage, <essentially bleeding internally to death> and this was from the corexic…What an in-humane way for these animals, to die… BP does not have the philosophy, of safe practise. And, the dominoe effect, has us with one of the worst ecological disasters.
Looks like BP have Shut In the well!!!
This is great news. It means that the well can be killed with control from above and below (seabed and 18,000 ft). Let’s hope the build-up of gas doesn’t compromise the wellhead and surface casing.
I’ll eat my words tommorow if things don’t work out at the wellhead. But, I’ll remind you all of the bullshit that CM1 was throwing at you a couple of weeks ago. I’d call it ‘jumping the gun’. Many of you swallowed that crap and regurgitated the same.
Bottom line: BP, will shut in this well if the casing doesn’t burst!
[QUOTE=alcor;39713]Bottom line: BP, will shut in this well if the casing doesn’t burst![/QUOTE]
And if the casing bursts?
[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;39711]If it were not for the facts of intentional, arrogant stance, which has the mind set, of blatant negligence, then I would say…an accident like the airplane crash, and so forth. Then, yest. I read the autopsies, of the turtles, showed,changes in their blood cells, rupturing, and causing internal hemhorage, <essentially bleeding internally to death> and this was from the corexic…What an in-humane way for these animals, to die… BP does not have the philosophy, of safe practise.[/QUOTE]
And yet, you made comedy of the fact that you were thinking of CM1 and I while filling your engine with gas. Are you a potential contributor to the internal bleeding?
Which nation consumes 70% of the world’s oil production?
There are other incidents worldwide…just not on US shores. But, the dieing birds are all the same. They aren’t advertised. Why? I’m not sure.
When 150 offshore workers were killed by Oxy did anyone in the GOM care? No. It’s only when it’s on your doorstep that action is taken.
Sorry, about the Walrussess…that don’t exist…and which the MMS said do exist!!!
Confusion reigns.
Alcor, you have sold your soul to BP,and they are prostituting, you to speak up for them. You are BP’s Bitch!!
[QUOTE=Tim;39714]And if the casing bursts?[/QUOTE]
If the casing bursts they have a bigger challenge. The placement of the relief well intervention point means that they can initially circulate weighted mud while observing pressure in the wellhead. At any time, they can shut in the well and compare pressure with original shut-in.
Bottom line: if they are truly able to shut in without any surface leak the well is on its way to being sealed off permanently.
Sounds like the previous ‘knowledge’ was garbage. CM1, more pie?
[QUOTE=alcor;39715]And yet, you made comedy of the fact that you were thinking of CM1 and I while filling your engine with gas. Are you a potential contributor to the internal bleeding?
Which nation consumes 70% of the world’s oil production?
There are other incidents worldwide…just not on US shores. But, the dieing birds are all the same. They aren’t advertised. Why? I’m not sure.
When 150 offshore workers were killed by Oxy did anyone in the GOM care? No. It’s only when it’s on your doorstep that action is taken.
Sorry, about the Walrussess…that don’t exist…and which the MMS said do exist!!!
Confusion reigns.[/QUOTE]… Alcor, it s ok,to be afraid,as long as you,don’t drag down your loved ones with you.
[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;39717]Alcor, you have sold your soul to BP,and they are prostituting, you to speak up for them. You are BP’s Bitch!![/QUOTE]
You and I were friendly a while ago. Let’s not suggest to the world that you’ve changed your colours. Fortunately, i have known a snake or two, and am well prepared for your bias, which is understandable considering all events are happening on your doorstep. I am sincerely sorry about this.
Maybe, I do more damage to BP by speaking up. Truth is, if it was any other Operator and the circumstances were the same I’d behave the same way. You see, I’m from the drilling side. I don’t care what the Operator’s try to throw at us, we will still maintain control of the well…that’s our job!
[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;39719]… Alcor, it s ok,to be afraid,as long as you,don’t drag down your loved ones with you.[/QUOTE]
Men love to hear maternal comments. This wrenches our souls.
[QUOTE=alcor;39695] … I suggest you look amongst yourselves, and I pity the day BP ever bought and attempted to control the likes of AMOCO and ARCO. … [/QUOTE]
I will say this: I got to see ARCO top management up close for a fair while. I was not impressed. But they were really, really, really good at feathering their own nests. OTOH, that was a quarter century ago, in the last millennium; [I]maybe[/I] the culture of the place had changed since then. Or, as Alcor is suggesting, maybe not.
Thrilled the well is shut in, and fingers crossed that it holds. The techinical discussions earlier were interesting. Sorry to see this thread has digressed into personal insults and people picking sides. I’ll throw my lot in with Alcor, and then exit before the flames begin. It’s been fun guys and gals. Bye!
Alcor, If I see, observe, illogical behavior, I have to speak up, as I would hope someone, would straighten me up, if I had a dumbass attitude, which I ve had ,I just try to learn from my mistakes. Its that attitude, I can not stand from anyone,that foolish mind set, leads to foolish decisions. I m irish/italian,donta messa witha my head, or show me disresprcta…lol capish?
[QUOTE=Cynthia;39724]Thrilled the well is shut in, and fingers crossed that it holds. The techinical discussions earlier were interesting. Sorry to see this thread has digressed into personal insults and people picking sides. I’ll throw my lot in with Alcor, and then exit before the flames begin. It’s been fun guys and gals. Bye![/QUOTE]
O cynthia,don t go,I m giving Alcor mouth to mouth…resuscitation. I m actually bringing the Alcor back to life,so He can continue ,
[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;39725]Alcor, If I see, observe, illogical behavior, I have to speak up, as I would hope someone, would straighten me up, if I had a dumbass attitude, which I ve had ,I just try to learn from my mistakes. Its that attitude, I can not stand from anyone,that foolish mind set, leads to foolish decisions. I m irish/italian,donta messa witha my head, or show me disresprcta…lol capish?[/QUOTE]
This is my last statement this evening:
I am prepared to support the activities of an Operator on my rig when the lives of all are not compromised. As a Contractor, I will not sell myself short. The rig/personnel is of paramount importance in all decision making. The drilling contractor offers the rig as a means to drilling the well, and when things go against the grain, a means of killing it. That is our capability. But, we must be able to interpret what’s going on in the well.
There’s no VIDRINE who can tell me what to do. We are the final barrier. And we don’t ever want to get to the point of having to close in the well on the BOPs. But, sometimes we have to. My personal opinion is that VIDRINE failed. The OIM, also failed. And, the whole world has turned upside down in the offshore industry.
Shall BP end? Maybe, but the actions/decisions of one or two individuals shouldn’t affect the outcome.
Unless,
We’re talking about unusual wells that can produce daily volumes of 60,000 Bbls per day.
[QUOTE=Alf;39670]I agree with you when you say kill mud will likely go into the old loss zone and they will have losses there again. It’s a known weak zone. LCM and barite will be the only tools in their arsenal to fight it with.
I would have to check back to confirm, but I’m pretty sure the 3000bbl loss zone was above the reservoir section. (but still in the same hole section).
The only way I know of fighting/fixing it would be lots of volume and plenty of LCM.
The other factor not particularly in their favour is that they don’t have a riser to surface above the BOP (as in a normal well kill from the surface) so the mud weight they will have to use in the kill will be higher, and based on the length from seabed to reservoir ie +/_1500ft less than for a surface kill.
Volume and flowrates will be the key to stopping this. They have the volume capacity on surface, but do they have the flowrate capacity with the rig pumps (plus other pumps?) on the rig doing the first relief well?[/QUOTE]
Needless to mention you are aware that some loss zones are incurable even with LCM, Barite and squeeze jobs,and have to be drilled past with seawater till the next casing point if pressures are low enough, or shoe depth has to be revised -contingency casing run. This is one of the many unknowns but I hope the loss zone won’t make the kill complicated.
[QUOTE=alcor;39695]Here’s how I see it:
Share price went up 4 % yesterday when they landed the Top BOP. When the well is killed the price will rise a further 15%. When Hatward is sacked, another 10%. Meantime, you have to search your conscience and decide if the outcome is noble. It isn’t. It’s profit, and it appeases the American sense that someone else is responsible for the demise of the DWH. I suggest you look amongst yourselves, and I pity the day BP ever bought and attempted to control the likes of AMOCO and ARCO.
Funny enough, BP’s operations worldwide appear to be more than healthy. Take a chill pill and examine what may be wrong at home!!![/QUOTE]
How low would it get if the kill is unsuccessful ? You not by any chance ramping up the stock, are you ?
[QUOTE=alcor;39677]When you build motorways animals die crossing the road.
When an aircraft takes off/lands we often kill birds.
We drive our speedboats and the propeller rips apart sealife.
We shoot animals and call it sport.
We consider ourselves the most advanced species on the planet, and yet, we leave death and destruction in our path.
We drill for oil, and cause untold damage to the marine life.
And yet, our thirst for oil is not quenched. We all have a part to play in the destruction of the world.
In this case, birds suffer because we want oil to fuel our cars. All of us are culpable. Many, never asked what the consequences of our actions are. Blame who you like. Oil, will still be needed tommorow!![/QUOTE]
This is a reflection of a simple minded view of the carnage ongoing in the gulf since the blowout. Joe public is not that naive these days. Animals die as you mentioned above and also when mother nature hits with Tsunamis, Earthquakes, and Hurricanes. But the biomass remains constant. When you run over and kill a wild animal on the road , it rots. Remains get eaten by vultures, other creatures and bacteria. Biomass then get recycled and life resets and returns to a new equilibrium. This won’t happen when biomass gets poisoned. Bacteria eats oil but there is a tipping point where even bacteria can’t cope, like poisoned by chemicals acting as catalysts. Oil will still be needed but we don’t have to act like barbarians to get it from the earth.