[QUOTE=Jones the Fish;36987]Thanks [B]stratege[/B], a voice of reason along with Alcor.
There has been far too much BS on here recently, to the point I finally registered rather than continuing to lurk in happy anonymity.
BP was #4 on the Global 500 in 2009. I suspect that Tony Hayward made a PR mistake in being too visible in the Gulf, albeit for the right motives. As a result, he presented a target as being ‘informed about the disaster’, when in fact he was running a company with 92,000 employees and there is no way in heck that he had clue one about the DWH before things went bang aside from being told about the discovery. The company he runs is BP Plc BTW, not the American Exploration and Production group.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a troll at best, or is simply not paying attention. Also BTW, I think yesterdays hearings, complete with the lack of due process and shrill grandstanding were a complete disgrace and embarrassment. Read the Cullen Report on Piper Alpha for how to do this properly and actually come out of it with something to help both people in the industry and the American public at large!!!
[B]stratege[/B], I can’t believe you mentioned Bhopal. Good for you. Compare Tony Hayward to the CEO of Union Carbide…
Do we have a clear idea that Tony is toast, or is this the planned execution of the announcement a week or so ago that the front line presence would devolve to the American operations group? I have a feeling that the latter is true, but don’t trust the media reporting. I suspect that BP has this orchestrated pretty well behind the scenes. Take the hit now, get over it and move forward…
Also consider that Carl-Henric Svanberg has Swedish as his first language. Yes, using ‘little people’ was bad news, but I guarantee I have made far worse gaffes in Farsi, Arabic and Pashtun, not to mention any one of a half-dozen European languages. I also don’t speak ‘good old boy’ as well as I used to…
Regardless, Tony is going to fall on his sword over this mess eventually, just a matter of the right timing. Personally, I think BP is now doing a reasonable job considering the enormity of the circumstances. No one has ever had to do this before on this scale, and they are improvising as they go. Hopefully its going to get a lot better fast. That is no excuse, but it does recognize reality.
By the way, CM1, before you get going about me working for BP, I lost a lot of close friends on Piper Alpha and have been through this kind of mess up close and personal and have the deepest sympathy for ALL those involved in this disaster. If you want to compare pedigrees, you may be very surprised!!
I come from the days when a Drilling Supervisor was the boss, not a ‘Well Site Team Leader’. We knew who the Drilling Supervisor was, and onshore we knew who the Drilling Superintendent was.
Perhaps being the sole operator representative on board, and dead on your feet after 72 hours fighting the well wasn’t such a bad deal after all, at least we all knew who was running the shop…
I also come from the days when the OIM (a TO position in this case) had the ultimate safety of the platform on his plate. No ifs, no buts, no maybes. In a SOLAS situation, the operator was invited to sit the hell down and shut the hell up. This disaster seems to be surrounded by ‘maybes’ as to who was in charge.[/QUOTE]
I knew where this post was going when I saw the two people you congratulated at the beginning as voices of reasoning. They certainly are voices of reason. They have reasoned that one company which has had single handedly 97% of all saftey violations for all refineries in the United States is no more guilty than any other business operating in the United States & we’re all of a sudden English haters who are picking on them because they are victims of bad luck or bad enforcement. They reason how its everyone’s fault that an outlaw organiztion killed elevn people, made 6 more jump 80’ into the water in the middle of the night, & caused the greatest environmental disaster in US history. They reason that the House of Represntatives of the United States is nothing more than a dog and pony show for the small people of the United States. They reason that somehow there will actually be less damage done to BP by continuing to deny, deny, deny than coming clean & striving to regain the trust of someone in this country. They reason that the other industry leaders have insufficiently accused BP of not folleoing industry guidelines. I am sure tomorrow they will reason why one of their own partners has abandoned BP due to their systematic lack of respect for industry guidelines & gross negligence leading up to & since this occurance. Continue to reason because you will be busy for a while reasoning the unreasonable.
As far as your pedigree goes, if you can justify in any way the irresponsible actions of BP before or since this disaster started then you seriously need to get out of the game. The only shameless thing about the house hearings yesterday was the disrespect shown by the CEO of BP in denying the total disregard for safety by his company. Here’s a little lesson in responsibility for guys like you. The first step in being responsible is when even the local librarian knows you were grossly negligent & you don’t confess to it then you don’t know what responsibility is & are proving no one should ever trust you again. If that doesn’t resonate with you then I pitty you & would say I’m glad if I never worked with you either. The problem with this business is there are too many of you still left in it.