I graduated from Cal Maritime last year. I have been working on ship assist tugs (all of which are 100 T or less) in inland waters. I am getting close to my upgrade and have a few questions…
Can I upgrade from a 3/M AGT oceans to a 500 T Master (Oceans) even though all of my sea time has been in inland waters?
How much sea time is required for the upgrade from 3/M to 500T Master? I have heard (if working in inland waters) that 1 year seatime will get you an inland license and 18 months will get you an oceans. Any truth to this?
before anyone directly links me to 46CFR 10.418…
I have read 46 CFR10.418 over and over, and nothing in there seems to address this particular situation.
Hey there Mr. Tug,
OK, let’s address this logically. You have a 3rd Mate Oceans, but forget about that for a moment and let’s just address the 500 ton Master license. Now, I know you said there isn’t anything in the cfr that specifically addresses your situation, but I beg to differ.
Your first question: "Can I upgrade from a 3/M AGT oceans to a 500 T Master (Oceans) even though all of my sea time has been in inland waters?"
Maybe. You lie about all of your sea time being in inland waters. Clearly you have some oceans time or you would not have a 3rd Mate. What you mean is that all of your mate time is inland.
Answer these questions. If you can answer yes to ALL of them, you can have a 500 Oceans master.
- a)Do you have 3 years total service on ocean or near coastal waters? b) If not, do you have 1.5 years ocean or near coastal plus 1.5 years Great Lakes or Inland? If yes to either, you may proceed to #2.
- Do you have 2 years (from the 3 years required above)as a master, mate, or equivalent supervisory position while holding your 3rd Mate?
- Of that 2 years from above as master or mate, is at least 1 year on vessels over 50 gross tons?
Did you answer yes to all? Congratulations. If not, sorry.
Your second question: "How much sea time is required for the upgrade from 3/M to 500T Master?"
You cannot upgrade FROM 3rd Mate to 500 ton, per se. See my answer to your first question.
Your third question: "I have heard (if working in inland waters) that 1 year seatime will get you an inland license and 18 months will get you an oceans. Any truth to this?"
I say again, see my answer to your first question.