I’m confused about your use of “CJ”. You use it too consistently for it to be a typo for DJ or DJT.
What in hell, or who in hell is CJ?
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Oops. Sorry. You’re not from around here, are you?
That’s our affectionate Seattle nickname for P47: ‘CJ’ ; Cheeto jesus.
We figured since he likes calling everyone else cruel nicknames he wouldn’t mind if we gave him a fitting one.
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I don’t spend more than few weeks a year in Seattle anymore , but I work with Western Washington guys most of the time.
This is the first time I’ve heard about “Cheeto Jesus.”
I love Ashley Judd. I remember her singing “Nasty Woman” that included the line about Trump bathing in Cheeto Dust. Everytime Ashley smiles at me, my heart and brain melts and I believe everything she says.
Of course most of the sailors that I work with are working away from home for a long time and paying high taxes. That makes 90% of them Republicans.
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I don’t agree with it but not surprised those left of center have now flipped & want to deport all undocumented immigrates regardless of how hard they work or not. Separation of families is no longer a concern. They’re now pro-war, pro telling women what to do with their bodies (vaccines) & done away with the primary system that picks there candidate for president. If they keep this pace up I wouldn’t be surprised if the Democrats go back to the party of slavery by the end of decade.
Interesting view on Musk who currently is running things. NOAA and even the financial system
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A friend brought to my attention a phenomenon I had not noticed before.
He said that when you listen to the extremes of each party, they actually come full circle to agreeing with each other.
In the case of immigration/ deportations:
The extreme right will say deport everyone, and start with the criminals.! (But on reflection: But maybe some are ok so don’t bother with those.
On the extreme left they will say, Illegals are all God’s creatures! Deport none! Well, maybe deport the criminals, but no one else.
We in the Center say, Dudes in 2024 a bipartisan bill passed one house of Congress that pretty much agrees with what you’re saying. Clean it up in the other House. Sign it. Done. Why are you arguing?!
To which the extremists on the right , Say ‘You commie!’ And those on the left say, ‘You fascist!’
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Ugh. Thank you.
Start at 4:55
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Not only should individuals such as CEO’s and HR managers who knowingly make these decisions be punished, with mandated jail/prison time NOT just fines for rich guys; but the companies themselves should be punished. There should be a three strikes your out law, such that after 3 strikes a company forfeits all their assets and is forcibly shut down so they no longer do business. I think there should be similar in place for other serious labor or environmental infractions. Too often certain companies are allowed to just pay fines and keep doing business as usual with continual periodic infractions, only some of which are actually detected and enforced. The companies then consider the fines the cost of doing business and just pass the costs on to their customers.
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“If they keep this pace up I wouldn’t be surprised if the Democrats go back to the party of slavery by the end of decade.”
Wow. Just wow. Something tells me you don’t understand why since the 1960’s most African Americans vote Democrat (prior to that they consistently supported the party of Lincoln) and during that same period the South has gone from consistently Democrat to consistently Republican.
Democrats are still very much anti-war, not sure why you think otherwise. If you feel support for Ukraine = love of war you are VERY mistaken. Rooting for and supporting a sovereign nation to defend itself from a larger autocratic aggressor is not supporting war. It’s supporting justice and supporting the right of nations to exist and not be annexed by neighbors who happen to be more powerful and feel that their might makes right. War is a horrible solution to any problem but ANY sovereign nation that is invaded without provocation by a conquering and subjugating foe deserves the right to defend themselves and the choice of those citizens to defend their country’s soil against tyranny is NOT immoral.
I hate war but I would certainly be willing to fight in one if the US was ever invaded by a foreign power.
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Say & believe what you want. But it was the very popular Democrat President Obama who pushed & enforced a special, new tax on poor people who were too poor to to buy overpriced medical insurance. It’s a freaking shame that it took the election of DJT & a Republican Congress to repel that criminal tax with the Tax Cuts & Jobs Act of 2017. Really, it was the Republicans that had to fix that injustice?? And now we have the adament Obama/Hillary/Bidden/Harris supporter @freighterman1 on this forum with a sincere, well thought out plan to break the US into Blue & Red leagues. I remember from history classes the last time the Democrats wanted to break up the US into Blue & Grey it ended in catastrophe. Changing it to Blue & Red this time won’t make it any better? How dumb do they think we are? From war mongering, immigration, taxing the poor, rights over our own bodies, not using a democratic primary system to pick candidates for the presidency & even the concept of the United States itself, I think the Democrat Party has circled around dangerously far back to where it started.
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The Republicans of 1860 are the Democrats of 2000’s .
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I don’t think separating the US into Red & Blue leagues is remotely close to anything on the Democratic Party platform. That’s one person’s idea on this forum. That’s it. Assuming that the Democratic Party or even people who lean left want similar is just wrong. I certainly don’t want that as it would create even more suffering for the most vulnerable in Red states. We already see people in Red states and even military personnel stationed in Red states being subject to laws and potential prosecution for what had been a settled and vetted supreme court case for decades.
I’m curious what the war mongering is that the Democratic Party is involved in. All our recent wars, one of which was the longest in our nation’s history, were started while a Republican held the Oval Office.
The preeminent use of state primaries to select a party’s candidate is a relative new phenomenon. For decades party candidates were selected at the conventions, not as part of a primary system. The complete emphasis on primaries we see today didn’t really come into being until the 1970s. Of course it would have been preferred to utilize primaries across all states as has been done in recent times, but when Biden stepped down from running again there wasn’t time to rerun 50 primaries with all the potential candidates. Instead the party chose their preferred candidate, which is totally within their right. Unlike the actual general election the selection of party candidates is a process that is entirely up to the parties themselves. For instance the Democratic Party has been using Super Delegates for years. In some states we have primaries, in some states we have caucuses, in some states we have both and the party chooses which actually counts. The parties can nominate whoever they want and honestly could do so at the convention regardless of what the primary results were. For example in 1952 Sen. Estes Kefauver of Tennessee won 12 of 15 Democratic primaries, but the Democratic convention instead chose Adlai Stevenson, who skipped the entire primary season. This is not unprecedented and given Biden stepped aside so late there was very little choice. Given the party chose the sitting Vice President who had ran for President the previous cycle it really wasn’t that controversial. If they had arbitrarily chosen some totally random person who had never run before it would have been more odd but still within the Party’s right to select their favored candidate at the convention. That is what conventions are for. It is only in more recent years that conventions have shifted from being selections to more coronations. For much of our nation’s history the candidates were chosen by the parties at the conventions.
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It is a mystery, where did the Dixiecrats go? They were there and then they disappeared. Quite suddenly Strom Thurmond and the like became Republicans. I can’t imagine why.
I believe it began and had something to do with the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964.
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Well, I respectfully submit you did not read my plan.
All it does is reapportion taxation for the least essential of federal government services. Explain it that way to the average American and the only problem is getting them to stay awake to the end of the sentence.
In my plan the nation stays united. Defense, transportation, commerce, treasury all remain exactly the same. The way it was until 1932.
The Congressional legislators who govern the whole country from Monday to Thursday would now on Fridays switch over to the humdrum work of reviewing league outlays for urban development. Yawn.
It takes the least-essential of government services out of the federal realm.
For Christ-sakes that is exactly what the GOP has been wanting for 80 years!!! And when you make a plan to agree with them they complain!!!
So the historic noble Republicans, the party of Lincoln, the folks who fought & died to keep the Union together & free the slaves secretly & unanimously decided to switch the name of their party to the evil doers they fought so hard against & those historic evil doers secretly & unanimously decided to take on the name of their historic foes? Okie dokie? And why exactly did they do that instead of creating a new party if they no longer liked the party of Lincoln & why is it only the Democrats who make this assertion? With our doublethink society & history revisionists, I can imagine a day when the Democrats will try to rewrite history & put a (D) next to Lincolns name & beside all the other presidents that history looks favorably on. Very convenient.
You should study the political history from the the 1960’s to the present. After signing the Civil Rights legislation in 1965 President Johnson was flying back to Texas with journalist Bill Moyers. Moyers said it was a big day and Johnson said, “Well, I think we may have lost the south for your lifetime – and mine.”
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Take a look at the following images:
Electoral College Map 1956:
Electoral College Map 1964:
In the space of 8 years the country basically flipped politically. Ask yourself why. Why did the South vote so predominantly Democratic in 1956 (and every election prior to that since the end of Reconstruction) and then just 8 years later completely abandon the Democrats and vote overwhelming Republican?
What was going on during those 8 years that would have created such a rapid 180 degree change across the entire south, and in particular in the states of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, & South Carolina, the states with the deepest ties to slavery, the confederacy, and Jim Crow? Lynden Johnson was from the southern state of Texas so why wasn’t he supported by any of the historically Democratic states of the deep South?
That period was the blossoming of the Civil Rights movement onto the national stage and the willingness of the Democratic Party outside the south to take on Jim Crow and the other racially driven institutions that had been put in place by the states across the South.
Notice Florida & Texas, although Southern, lacking the deep ties to Slavery and Jim Crow. Florida & Texas actually changed like the rest of the nation but opposite the rest of the South. It was the deep South with a staunch commitment to Segregation that viewed the Republicans as the party most willing to protect their “Southern heritage” & “way of life” going forward.
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And the Southern Democrats (or Dixiecrats as they were called) actually did try and create a party of their own on more than one occasion during this period:
In 1948 Strom Thurmond a life long Democrat abandoned the Democratic Party due to the rising voices calling for Federal intervention and law to hasten de-segregation in the South. Thurmond ran for President under the State’s Rights Democratic Party.
Then in 1968 George Wallace, the former Democratic Governor of Alabama ran as a third party candidate for President as part of the American Independent Party. Here’s a look at the Electoral College Map from that election:
Notice the states that voted for Wallace.
Wallace was also famous for the line in his prior Gubernatorial 1963 Inaugural Address : “I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever”
Thankfully neither of these parties had any success outside of the South and the Democrats were mostly successful in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, & the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which were all instrumental in helping drag the South away from it’s ongoing stubborn refusal to desegregate. Without Federal intervention there really is no telling when the South would have actually chosen to desegregate of their own volition.
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