Col Regs

Professional Mariner Forum
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Is a navigation beacon a structure ie 5 knot rule applies?
Second question; I had always thought ‘give way, 5 knot max’; etc were sacred and could never be amended. Right?

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Where did you find this little gem of information?

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Dont remember where I got that from. Next you will be saying give way to vessels on the port side.

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Forget the “Col Regs”. You should never give way to any vessels. I learned that steering the
ol’ Sara.

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This guy didn’t abide by any “no wake zones”.

WTF happened to this professional mariners forum?

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I don’t even know what they’re asking.

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A simple "no you are wrong " would have been nice. Now how about is a nav beacon a structure- yes or no? (why on earth did I post here, get everything but a straight answer)

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Of course it’s a structure – in life. It the legal universe it depends on how it’s defined in the regulations you’re asking about.

In the context of your question – the only mention of knots in the COLREGS is 1) to define a class of vessel that is less than seven meters long and goes less than seven knots; and 2) to define what constitutes a “high speed craft” for the purpose of the inland rules.

So – what is the rule you’re asking about?

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Um, well, perhaps because there is no connection between “structures” and “5-knot rule” - so your question contains contradictions. FWIW, yes there are navigation marks on structures.
And WTH does “give way, 5-knot rule” mean? The denizens here were just picking on your apparent total lack of knowledge - hence the snark and questions about “what are you asking about?”

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“A 5 knot speed limit applies when operating a vessel; within 200m of the shore or any structure”. I realise I dont know, thought that was the reason for a forum such as this.

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What is the document you’re quoting from? It’s not COLREGS, so what is it?

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State law, perhaps?

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https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navRules/CG_NRHB_20141118.pdf

One of the reasons is that it is populated by master mariners who have studied the above linked document to the point of exhaustion and could probably write a dissertation on some of the finer points of its strengths and weaknesses. If you would like to discuss COLREGS, read the pub and cite which rule or amendment you would like clarification on.

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Sorry I visited, wont happen again.

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Nobody can possibly help you if you won’t say what is the source of the regulation you quoted. It’s a big world and there are lots of countries and lots of regulations.

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Dude, why are you getting so pissy? We’re trying to help you but instead of answering our clarifying questions so we can decipher what you’re asking you get an attitude.

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And when I asked you a simple question such as where did you get this information, you came back with attitude. So goodbye and good ridance. Try the cruisers forum.

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A simple google search indicates our poster may be from Victoria, Australia.

On all Victorian waters a five knot speed limit applies to all operators within:

  • 50 m of a person, for example a swimmer

  • 50 m of another vessel

  • 100 m of a vessel or buoy on which a ‘diver below’ signal corresponding to the International Code Flag ‘A’ is displayed – a white/blue flag.
    On inland waters a five knot speed limit applies to all vessels within:

  • 50 m of the water’s edge

  • 50 m of any fixed or floating structure in or on the water.

Note: the local authority may specifically exclude waters by notice or the waters may be designated for other purposes.