ANP (Brazil) requires the treatment of Gray water.
this includes testing of pre treatment and post treatment.
quarterly samples sent to Shoreside lab.
there is no threshold limit.
the Law only states the system you use has to have a 6x improvement. before discharge is allowed.
My advice, If your Gray water is seperate discharged, combine it into you Black water system, then you can meet the ANP requriement. …
6x improvement of what? FOG? TSS? COD/BOD5?
It’s not clear in the ANP Direction. Although I’ve Met several improvement thresholds of COD/BOD but Sediment was too high. (failed) then Failed as too much reserve CL.
There are a stack of other items to be aware of.
Pipe labeling. I think it was 1 meter bands every 50m. To thier standard color scheme.
Walkways have to be painted green not yellow. and have to be bordered with White.
Fire Main has be be painted RED Entrirely on exposed runs.
Crane cabs have to be Yellow. Dayglow.
Don’t plan on using your Incinerator. Not allowed.
However I found the quality of Engineers and Mates/DPOs from Brazil. Very Knowlegeable. And excellent workers.
[QUOTE=“mainecheng;114153”]However I found the quality of Engineers and Mates/DPOs from Brazil. Very Knowlegeable. And excellent workers.[/QUOTE]
You are the first person I have ever heard say anything good about Brazilian officers (knowledgeable? really?) or that Brazilians actually work at all.
I worked down there several different times for 4 to 6 months, then was there for a little over 2 years straight, from early 2009 to the end of 2010. I can say first hand that the Brazilian mariners I worked with were the absolute worst in the entire world. Give me a crew of fillipinos, Mexicans, Ghana, Russians, or any of the eastern European countries anyday before I will ever work with a lazy ass Brazilian again
[QUOTE=mainecheng;114153]There are a stack of other items to be aware of.
Pipe labeling. I think it was 1 meter bands every 50m. To thier standard color scheme.
Walkways have to be painted green not yellow. and have to be bordered with White.
Fire Main has be be painted RED Entrirely on exposed runs.
Crane cabs have to be Yellow. Dayglow.
Don’t plan on using your Incinerator. Not allowed.
However I found the quality of Engineers and Mates/DPOs from Brazil. Very Knowlegeable. And excellent workers.[/QUOTE]
They made us run all of our grey water through the sewage plant while I was there, gave us no choice. Also they would not let us pump treated sewage over board in the harbor in Rio. This same plant has been fine in every other country I have ever been to including Europe and the U.S.
They did make us label the piping according to there color scheme. I did get to see one of the funniest things I have ever saw a inspector do down there. On the final inspection, the inspector saw something and starts telling us that we have to label those pipes before he will let us pass inspection, he also wanted arrows on the pipe to show the direction of flow. I started laughing, and told him you do realize those are 690 volt cables you are pointing out don’t you? And since they are A/C I guess they flow both ways. Needless to say he was less than impressed.
They made us paint both crane’s yellow not just the cab.
Our walk ways were company colors with yellow hand rails and they never said a word. (Not green for sure)
Our fire main was already red, (company colors)
They never said a word about the incinerator as long as we only used it offshore
They made us change every system on the entire ship from R-22 to another enviro-friendly Freon. We switched everything to R-404A. I was told by the inspectors that it was a 1000 dollar fine for every bottle of R-22 they found onboard, so we disposed of all before leaving to go to that miserable place.
All I can say is good luck down there, I hope I never have to go back!!!
Double post
All I hear about brazil is horror stories, so why the hell do people keep going back for more? Or is it where the companies send the troublemakers and rejects or people who don’t know any better? From what I read here it doesn’t seem like the pay is too much better than domestic.
Is it a way of “paying dues?” I hear lots of “terrible food” and involuntary weightloss but would like to hear stories!
[QUOTE=z-drive;114171]All I hear about brazil is horror stories, so why the hell do people keep going back for more? Or is it where the companies send the troublemakers and rejects or people who don’t know any better? From what I read here it doesn’t seem like the pay is too much better than domestic.
Is it a way of “paying dues?” I hear lots of “terrible food” and involuntary weightloss but would like to hear stories![/QUOTE]
If you worked in the oil field in 2010 there was not much else happening besides Brazil or west Africa after DWH, so some people didn’t have a choice. It was either go down there or collect unemployment.
I was working for a European company still on the construction boats, and I was making more than what I could any where in the states at the time. So I thought it was worth it at first, however that soon faded away though.
You are correct there are people that go down there for the same money they can make in the GOM, some companies give 25 or 30 bucks a day more to go down there then the GOM. That is just plain insane if you ask me. You should make minimum 50 a day in reality a 100. Most of the drilling companies give 15 to 20 % over base pay, so that make it a little more tolerable.
[QUOTE=ChiefRob;114167]I worked down there several different times for 4 to 6 months, then was there for a little over 2 years straight, from early 2009 to the end of 2010. I can say first hand that the Brazilian mariners I worked with were the absolute worst in the entire world. Give me a crew of fillipinos, Mexicans, Ghana, Russians, or any of the eastern European countries anyday before I will ever work with a lazy ass Brazilian again[/QUOTE]
In my limited experience with Latino’s. I learned “mañana” does not mean tomorrow - it just means ‘not today’.
‘When will that pump get repaired?’
“Mañana”.
'Crap, hope we don’t need it anytime soon…"
[QUOTE=z-drive;114171]All I hear about brazil is horror stories, so why the hell do people keep going back for more? Or is it where the companies send the troublemakers and rejects or people who don’t know any better? From what I read here it doesn’t seem like the pay is too much better than domestic.
Is it a way of “paying dues?” I hear lots of “terrible food” and involuntary weightloss but would like to hear stories![/QUOTE]
Our workers were GOOD. No qualms about saying that. What I found out is that other companies that HAD to hire local labor. treated them like mushrooms. The communicaitons is hard. I dont’ speak Portuguese - But many were English literate. For sure we had the customary Dregs and we ended up moving them along. But when we took the time to help train the crew they turned out to extremely well. We pulled a 25% premium (FRP- Rotatiation premium) on a 28 day rotation. Yes Food was a hurdle. Black beans and Rice. But Marfood (galley contractor) was very good in adapting and learning to cook some excelent US dishes. Even had one guy become a expert on GUMBO> And getting Ketchup and Mustard was a difficult. But all in all over 18months working in Brazil - Out of Cabo Frio. It was good. Of course the Beach was top heavy and often hard to deal with. But the Crew on DS4 was /is excellent.
[QUOTE=ChiefRob;114169]They made us run all of our grey water through the sewage plant while I was there, gave us no choice. Also they would not let us pump treated sewage over board in the harbor in Rio. This same plant has been fine in every other country I have ever been to including Europe and the U.S.
They did make us label the piping according to there color scheme. I did get to see one of the funniest things I have ever saw a inspector do down there. On the final inspection, the inspector saw something and starts telling us that we have to label those pipes before he will let us pass inspection, he also wanted arrows on the pipe to show the direction of flow. I started laughing, and told him you do realize those are 690 volt cables you are pointing out don’t you? And since they are A/C I guess they flow both ways. Needless to say he was less than impressed.
They made us paint both crane’s yellow not just the cab.
Our walk ways were company colors with yellow hand rails and they never said a word. (Not green for sure)
Our fire main was already red, (company colors)
They never said a word about the incinerator as long as we only used it offshore
They made us change every system on the entire ship from R-22 to another enviro-friendly Freon. We switched everything to R-404A. I was told by the inspectors that it was a 1000 dollar fine for every bottle of R-22 they found onboard, so we disposed of all before leaving to go to that miserable place.
All I can say is good luck down there, I hope I never have to go back!!![/QUOTE]
We already had 404 predominantly so that was a watch.
I love the Conduit obsevation! That’s Rich. But totally believeable.
They nixed the Incinerator. No doubt. They insepcted it each time they came out.
Understnad the sewage in Rio (insdie the 4NM. they are STRCIT)
PRV inspectons were antoher Goat rope. (both valves and vessels) on a 6th gen drillship that’s a daunting task. It was frustrating. But I’d go back. No doubt. Now I know what to expect.
Logistics was a chore as well. -But beter than west Africa at least.