Boeing Slides Further as More Loose Parts Found on MAX 9 Jets

Did Boeing use scarebus ( airbus) computers?

The movement of a flight deck seat is a key focus of the probe

Based on the available information it was understood the seat movement was “pilot induced, not intentionally,” the report said, citing a senior airline safety official.

From Reuters.

Statistically approximately 70% of aviation incidents/accidents are pilot error.

While media reports of the recent door incident may alter the public perceptions it’s not sufficient to move the needle on the 70% figure.

“Human error is a symptom, not a cause.”

– Prof. Nancy Leveson

She, along with Perrow and Vaughn, are required reading for anyone interested in how casualties happen.

IMHO, a proper formulation of the Reuters statement would be “Statistically 70% of aviation incidents/accidents are ascribed to pilot error by those in power who have an interest in maintaining the status quo.”

I also suggest reading:

https://estsjournal.org/index.php/ests/article/view/260

And there is always this old meme:

El Faro comes to mind, as well.

Cheers,

Earl

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Yes, well understood.

Maybe better to put it the other way. The chances that his incident had no pilot involvement is about 30%, just to have a basis.

My main point is every single incident that occurs to a Boeing aircraft is not necessarily relevant to this particular thread.

Could be a design issue with the pilot’s seat of course.

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WSJ supposedly reports that a flight attendant bumped a switch that adjusts the pilot’s seat while serving the pilot a meal. The switch (according to the report) is supposed to be covered and not used while the seat is occupied.

Presumably some pictures of this switch arrangement will surface soon.

Cheers,

Earl

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The voice and data recorder are now in Canberra, Australia for analysis. The aircraft also transmits 200 pieces of data per second to the ground. A pilot said engineers on the ground know of a fault before they do.
There are pictures of the aircraft with the starboard wing patched with “hundred mile an hour” tape that concerned some passengers. I’m not surprised, count me in as being concerned if I was a passenger.
According to Lantam the tape was to cover peeling paint.
The latest news blames a switch on the pilot’s seat that was accidentally activated propelling the pilot into the instrument panel. Pilots have been asked to check the cover over the switch.

Some details here.

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According people who read the WSJ article and commented on the vid this was a known issue since 2017. If so, sheesh.

Cheers,

Earl

United said the Boeing 737-800 had 139 passengers onboard the plane, with six crew members. The plane also did not declare an emergency while en route to Medford “as there was no indication of the damage during the flight,” United said.

25-year-old plane.

Here’s Kevin Drum making the point I was trying to make. To what degree are our impressions of the problems at Boeing driven by media coverage?

Mechanical failures only.