APL England Master Charged Over Loss of Containers Off Sydney

Notwithstanding the sarcasm, it sounds like you’ve never worked a tanker, particularly an old 2-house tanker without a control room and 238 valves on deck that won’t turn themselves.


Glad when we got aluminum valve wrenches, they were needed quite often. My wife always said my arms were bigger than my body. Update, body has caught up and passed the arms.

Class needs to not allow the vessel out of 5 year dry dock for things like that. Expecting an employee to risk their job and insist on repairs like that is asking a bit much.

Also, this illustrates the need to have an NI membership with it’s accompanying legal defense insurance.

Agree Phoenix. Class letting that vessel sail after inspection is part of the problem on signoffs out of the shipyard… Not sure when it was last inspected, but the deterioration of securing points did not happen overnite. Sorry to bring it up, but El Faro comes to mind, a much older vessel that continually passed inspection… You can lash the best you can, but all securing points must be reliable as well. Even then, mother nature can kick your ass even when or IF you took the most precautions to protect your vessel… This vessel lost power for a bit and was at the mercy of the weather. I feel bad for the Master of any rig having to experience what is happening now in this industry. Doesn’t mean all masters get a free pass, most do the best they can with the shit sandwich they are handed at times, and after the fact the owners cut a few corners.

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Hi Sea Eagle, Thanks for the note, much appreciated.



An update:

At the time of the incident, the ship was on a journey from Ningbo, China to Melbourne, Australia.

Captain Alias is due back in court on June 12.

One more opinion on this incident:

File “Note of Protest” and let the Lawyers handle it, is no longer good enough.

I’m glad I don’t have to contend with the new “culture” of blame that is now prevailing when it comes to shipping incidents around the world.

Interesting article, times have changed. Will share with my son, his wrestling pal is in charge of the lashing crew… Would recommend he share this with him as well. The shit trickles down nowadays.

In most cases I totally disagree with charging the captain, he didnt built it, staff it or maintain it.
Either the port detains it or goodbye.
Dont local stevedores do the securing, where is their liability?

we used to have an issue with truck drivers in OZ where the boss loads 80 tons on a semi and off goes the driver to get some huge fine if stopped and weighed.
Even the public got involved and said its crap the operator has the liability so they changed the law to fine the loader and not the driver.

Of course we now have B doubles, they are over 100 tonnes in the cities…
Road trains are a different thing and are restricted to where they can go

The stevedores do the lashing, If the lashing points were corroded, as the story goes that is the shipowners responsibility. It is up to who signs off on it before sailing, whatever party. It is extremely hectic just before sailing and mountains of paperwork. More reasons than not to share this article with my pals in the container industry.

Michael Grey is a very knowledgeable commentator on matters maritime and for many years was a columnist with FairPlay magazine.
When we have cases like a new build ship sailing from a yard in Europe straight into a North Atlantic crossing in mid winter with bare steel decks and the absolute minimum of coatings over the rest of the upperworks ongoing corrosion is assured.
The bottom coating and ship side may get attention at shipyard but the rest if it’s on a shipyard request is labeled ship’s staff.
If shipowners looked after an airline I wouldn’t fly with them- hell I wouldn’t like them flying over my house.


There are, or have been, quite a few Airlines that was owned and operated by Shipowners.
Of the cuff I can think of:
EVA AIR, Taiwan:

Fred Olsen Airtransport, Norway:

Braatens SAFE, Norway:

I have flown with all of them.

There may be more that I don’t know, or remember.

Matson Airlines
American Export Airlines

Oh yes, I forgot about that one. (Don’t remember having flown with them)

BTW; TUI also operate a fleet of Cruise ships under several brands:

Not sure if they have full management, or only Hotel and Marketing and use Ship Management Companies for Nautical and Technical.

TUI Airlines have a substantial fleet and network:

TUI used to be part owners of Hapag Lloyd AG.

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I had a major shipyard in Singapore blast and paint an entire ship once and it was the worst paint job imaginable.

Story told to me by my brother-in-law, former officer on a Canadian warship. A sailor came to him inquiring about a small square protrusion on deck, up against a bulkhead. He couldn’t figure out what it was so he instructed the sailor to strip the paint off. Under all that paint was a pack of cigarettes. It had been painted over so many times it had become a solid permanent fixture.