[QUOTE=acesouthcoast;155051]Several of these people have lots of workboat experience although not specifically mentioned in the bio’s. Jack hearn senior worked on tugboats for years after he came home from fighting with the marines in korea.[/QUOTE]
ok, they have one and he must be 85 who would certainly know the workboat industry in 2015
[QUOTE=c.captain;155078]ok, they have one and he must be 85 who would certainly know the workboat industry in 2015[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you this time Scooter.
[QUOTE=AHTS Master;155080]I have to agree with you this time Scooter.[/QUOTE]
thanks for that lil toot
I had not even heard of this org until this thread…
[QUOTE=Tim Hamilton;154580]Dear Sir and Brother Mariner,
Thank you for reaching out to the APMA through gCaptain’s forum and the invitation to respond to your inquiry. As a mariner, your profession is critical to national commerce, defense, and environmental and public safety. Thank you for doing your part. Many mariners have asked for a national association and network to empower them. The APMA offers solutions.
Under section 501(c)(6) of the Internal Revenue Code, the American Professional Mariners Association (APMA) is [U]a new and national non-profit[/U] association that provides high tech and cost effective solutions for the needs of American mariners, waterfront workers and their families. Our mission is about your success, on your terms, with all the help, resources, value and advantages we can find for you. Under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code the APMA Foundation is a public charity that conducts the charitable and educational activities of the APMA. Few federal agencies have greater authority to audit and regulate organizations than the IRS. All money received by the APMA and APMAF must be used in accordance with the mission and these regulatory federal codes.
The non-profit association was founded, and is governed, by a volunteer board of active mariners, complemented by military and business executives. They combine hundreds of years in seagoing experience with some of the highest academic and business credentials in the industry. These individuals pooled personal funds necessary for the start-up legal, technical, and staff requirements. No funds to start the APMA were received from any organization, non-profit, union, business, or corporation.
As a non-profit, the APMA must succeed by doing and by being worthwhile, every year. The association does not “get between the mariner and their money” and provides many services free to the public as well as the industry.
The APMA is not a collective bargaining group, not a union, and not a political lobby. The APMA does not replace the role of unions nor forums such as here in gCaptain.
The APMA is a non-profit association that provides beneficial programs to the men and women in the maritime industry so each person can be successful and self-sufficient. These programs are a nationwide network of support.
The APMA recognized a key need due to changes in retirement programs and partnered with FINRA (the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority Foundation) to provide unbiased educational material for your retirement planning. Our first call to action is helping people learn to make good decisions for their personal welfare. Additionally, APMA offers programs on a web-based platform for you to find jobs, training, business links, and USCG requirements and news. Finally, the APMA website has a member directory and other fun stuff to keep it interesting.
First and foremost, the APMA is a non-profit association with a mission to empower you as an individual. For example, in our application, you are recognized as an [B][U]Independent Mariner[/U][/B]. The APMA must earn your support and get better every year to keep it.
Membership is voluntary. There are no financial penalties whatsoever. If your membership expires while you are at sea or for any other reason, you may rejoin and restart membership.
Membership is affordable and just $72 per year. By joining the APMA, you help yourself, your family, and your shipmates to a better future because as a non-profit association for the American professional mariner – a strong membership is empowered to get the discounts, resources, and opportunities that you deserve.
The APMA is just getting started and with your input and support, we can do more. Please feel comfortable visiting the APMA website [www.americanmariners.org](http://www.americanmariners.org) for information. Thank you again and to the administrators of gCaptain for permitting our response to be posted on the site. On a final note, as a non-profit, it is APMA’s policy to respond to questions through our social media links and our website contact form. We look forward to answering follow up questions through those channels.
Tim Hamilton
APMA Social Media Administrator[/QUOTE]
Mr Hamilton,
As a non-profit would you please be so kind as to supply to us the name of the state in which you are incorporated?
As a non-profit would you please supply us with your financial records showing administrative expenses and funds expended in furtherance of the objectives of your non-profit’s goals as stated in your application for non-profit status? Of course we can find this information on our own but by you supplying this information as the AMPA Social Media Administrator
it would clear up many questions we here on gCaptain have regarding your organization.
Thank You
This thread is lame. Lots of chest thumping. This association or whatever they want to call it is most likely going no where and thats not because of people on g-captain. I would say its prob not that valuable to mariners. We already have plenty of things in place to take care of us. Like z-drive said dont be a dumb ass and spend all your cash. Save some for a rainy day. The g-captain forum is not a great representation of American mariners. Most guys i work with never come on here. The articles are great, but the forum itself is used by a minority of mariners so please take a deep breath and find some humility. You’re not that important. No one really gives a fuck if any of you approve. If someone starts a business or association then let american mariners figure out out for themselves if they care to join. Most guys i work with are pretty sharp and dont give hard earned money to anyone. This is a non-issue. Anyone thats getting real worked up and making sure to bash the founders most likely has a personal grudge they want to settle or theyre on watch and bored cuz loved ones are sick of emailing or texting them and they want to pass the time.
[QUOTE=acesouthcoast;155093]Anyone thats getting real worked up and making sure to bash the founders most likely has a personal grudge they want to settle or theyre on watch and bored cuz loved ones are sick of emailing or texting them and they want to pass the time.[/QUOTE]
and who are you to say what we should and should not laud or rather what we should and should not bash with a 2x4? Amongst other purposes,a forum is a place for people with some common interests to express their opinions whether you like it or not. I am further not sorry that you feel some of us here have a greater level of opinion in our posts to meet your liking. You are very small and somewhat insignificant here so your opinions will carry the weight you can give them with your high standing.
Now, I have made my feelings quite clear concerning what I think of the APMA but more importantly, WHY I have those. For no other reason, I do not like them taking the name of what I believe is THE association us professional American mariners desperately NEED! They are taking something of very great value and squandering it.
Now some here might like apologists for the APMA, but I sure as hell don’t nor believe a whole lot of other forum members likewise.
I fully agree with you. I am nobody. I am small. I am a working stiff. But i dont like people who think they are more important than they really are.
I’m happy with the APMA.
[QUOTE=Jammer Six;155097]I’m happy with the APMA.[/QUOTE]
Why? Please share.
I think most of us here are somebody, we come in all sizes, and we are all working stiffs. Most of us have a little bit higher opinion of our value to someone or something than you appear to have. Don’t play the role of slave and expect to achieve anything better than servitude.
But i dont like people who think they are more important than they really are.
Who you like or don’t like is a personal issue. I suspect damn few here care one way or another. Besides, like him or not, agree or not, c.captain is an important member of this group because he contributes information and ideas. Attacking the messenger means you didn’t hear the message or are not capable of evaluating the message.
You on the other hand have come across as thinking you are important to the group because you must think we care who or what you like.
[QUOTE=c.captain;154840]I have come to believe the entire bunch behind this AMPA are completely obtuse and have no clue of who the real working US mariner even is? All you have to do is look at the backgrounds of their executive board to see they ain’t us! There is no workboat element at all to their board yet workboat mariners outnumber deepsea mariners by likely 10 to 1 in the US. They are also heavy in KP ringknockers yet do not have hawsepipers on their board however hawsepipe mariners outnumber their academy brothers by likely the same ratio. There can never be a truly all inclusive association of mariners in the US if the leadership of any such association does not know of all mariners nor understand their world. I do not believe the AMPA understands very much at all concerning the real US maritime industry.
only hurt I want to do to them is financially
btw seadog my shipmate…you should go back and remove the thanks you left for the esteemed Mr. Hamilton…I really do not believe you meant to thank him did you?
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I was happy to see the guy step up and answer us. I am since disappointed since he has disappeared into the briny. He can have one thanks from me. It didn’t cost me $72…
“Who you like or dont like is a personal issue” Thanks for that knowledge.
I understand c-captains message just fine and i understand why he is very suspicious. I also understand i am a small insignificant part of this forumn and thats fine by me. C-captain is a leader of this forumn. Its actually quite impressive how knowledgable he is and how quickly he gets involved in such a large number of threads. Does he work for G-captain? Thats a serious question.
As a small internet slave on the outside looking into a thread i just noticed more negative talk instead of actual constructive criticism amd or actual information. As a thoughtful and fair minded person i like to get a bit more info before i cast judgement. And i think we have plenty of time. I dont think this new association is going to gain much traction.
[QUOTE=acesouthcoast;155125]I understand c-captains message just fine and i understand why he is very suspicious. I also understand i am a small insignificant part of this forumn and thats fine by me. C-captain is a leader of this forumn. Its actually quite impressive how knowledgable he is and how quickly he gets involved in such a large number of threads. Does he work for G-captain? Thats a serious question. [/QUOTE]
to answer your question it is no I do not work for gCaptain although John, Rob and Mike know me and allow me significant latitude here to speak my mind for which I sincerely thank them with much gratitude. I believe they wish I was less opinionated and have admonished me when I cross any line they might draw. I respect their command of this forum implicitly. I laud what they have created for us and always will champion them and their tireless efforts to give us this extremely valuable forum to speak about (as well as criticize) our industry and profession.
My daily presence here stems from 30+ years as a working career mariner who has always been highly frustrated with our industry. There are parts of it I generally like and respect so do not feel the need to poke them with my stick but significantly more parts which I feel need to be called out for hypocrisy and conditions of employment which are regressive. I am the world’s greatest champion for the US merchant marine and maritime industry and as a maritime historian , know how much we have given up over the last 70 years when we were preeminent across the globe. I know we can never get that back to that position but I will be damned if I still won’t call for us to always make what we have bigger, better and healthier. That means government, the owners and the mariners all working to that end. When I see those who are not helping but rather hurting the cause, you know you will hear very strong opinions from me regarding them. This is why I am calling out the AMPA…they ain’t helping SHIT!
Hahahhah alright fair enough. I just sensed a bit of a personal problem with the founders and that kindah makes the credibility of some statements go out the window. But i could have been totally wrong and my perception might be off as it has been from time to time.
C-captain your posts about maritime history especially old navy stuff is great.
Maybe c.captain should rate us all in importance and update it weekly? Monthly? Quarterly?
I came up with this info in a Whois search:
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[QUOTE=acesouthcoast;155125] C-captain is a leader of this forumn. .[/QUOTE]
IN not OF … there is a difference.
I think steamer would be up to that task as well.
Yea!!! Rabble Rabble Rabble!!