You could also go the Master 500 GRT route. With that you can get your 3000 ITC endorsement, and work on the bridge of many of the OSVs. Once you have Master 500, it is only 720 days of sea time (480 12 hr days) and you can be automatically upgraded to Master 1600 GRT with no additional testing.
Working AB might be better is you are going for unlimited.
3000 OSV, not ITC. The difference being the OSV license is trade restricted. When you upgrade to 1600 GRT you then get the 3000ITC. Don’t forget to ask for the 3000 OSV as they won’t automatically add it to your 500.
[QUOTE=rigdvr;112313]3000 OSV, not ITC. The difference being the OSV license is trade restricted. When you upgrade to 1600 GRT you then get the 3000ITC. Don’t forget to ask for the 3000 OSV as they won’t automatically add it to your 500.[/QUOTE]
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Here’s the language pulled off the NMC site for a Master 500 GRT NC with the 3000 ITC endorsement:
"Limited to service on motor propelled offshore supply vessels of not more than 3,000 Gross Tons (ITC Tonnage). Valid for domestic near coastal voyages only"
Is my interpretation that it is the International Tonnage, and restricted to OSV incorrect?
No, what the nmc said is right. It is what it is. But With a 1,600 Ton license you can get a 3,000 ton ITC endorsement that comes without the restrictions (osv, near coastal, domestic) listed above.
[QUOTE=z-drive;112316]No, what the nmc said is right. It is what it is. But With a 1,600 Ton license you can get a 3,000 ton ITC endorsement that comes without the restrictions (osv, near coastal, domestic) listed above.[/QUOTE]
z-drive: Thanks for confirming my understanding of it.
Are you sure all you need is sea time to go from 500 GRT to 1600 GRT with no further testing? The way I read the deck exam guide testing is needed.
[QUOTE=Flyer69;112321]Are you sure all you need is sea time to go from 500 GRT to 1600 GRT with no further testing? The way I read the deck exam guide testing is needed.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Check out the Master 500/1600 checklist on the NMC site.
The checklist states 720 days on a vessel over 200 GRT, with 360 days of service as Master, Mate, etc., on vessels over 100 GRT, 1440 total days, etc.
Shouldn’t need to. In casual way of putting it you can typically go up in tonnage from 500 mate-1600 mate with just days as the exams are the same, as are they for a third. You’ll normally have to test to go to Master from mate regardless at that 509/1600 level but my god are there always exceptions.
The checklist also says to refer to the deck exam guide in reference to exams, and as I read it they treat going from 500 GRT Master to 1600 GRT Master as a raise in grade, and as such you have to do all the exams. I would cut and paste where I read that, but my laptop shit the bed and I am typing this from my wicked smaht phone.
Wouldn’t I be some pleased to find out I am wrong, and just need the seatime.
Page 64 of the deck/engineering exam guide:
“Applicants holding 500 master ocean/nc issued after feb 2002 may increase scope to NMt 1600 GRT by presenting evidence of required sea time. No further testing required”
Well, that’s just awesome. Thank you, sir!
Which companies in Houston? For that price!
It was JCC or Omega.
Water,
I am going for my AB Unlimited, then mates or 500T. As someone with no experience in the “real” commercial side of the industry (but with considerable seatime), working as an AB will be good for me, also I am looking forward to it! I am planning to go to tugs within the next 5 years but I am going to take advantage of the boom in the GOM while it’s happening and all the benefits that come with working for a large company. Once I have more to offer the industry I will start my search for ocean towing companies. - 5 year plan
[QUOTE=TOWBOATTED;112549]Water,
I am going for my AB Unlimited, then mates or 500T. As someone with no experience in the “real” commercial side of the industry (but with considerable seatime), working as an AB will be good for me, also I am looking forward to it! I am planning to go to tugs within the next 5 years but I am going to take advantage of the boom in the GOM while it’s happening and all the benefits that come with working for a large company. Once I have more to offer the industry I will start my search for ocean towing companies. - 5 year plan[/QUOTE]
I suspect you will do well! You have a five year plan, and a willingness to work.
The nice thing about going the Master 500 route is that you only test once. After that you can bump up to Master 1600 with sea time only.
Thanks, it is nice to know there is more than one way to skin a cat. After I rack up some time, $, and get situated I will start taking those next steps, on whatever route will benefit me the most. Thanks all for you input and advice. Can’t wait to get down there!
[QUOTE=TOWBOATTED;112596]Thanks, it is nice to know there is more than one way to skin a cat. After I rack up some time, $, and get situated I will start taking those next steps, on whatever route will benefit me the most. Thanks all for you input and advice. Can’t wait to get down there![/QUOTE]
You might move up a lot faster to master 500 and get a DP certificate by starting out on crewboats.
I’ll look into that, I’ve heard that from more than one person.