You won’t last long on anything that floats with that piss poor attitude. Have fun.
Just a heads up, a lot of people that work in the Great Lakes are from the same area. Like from one town. Like, one little neighborhood in that town. Like, maybe even from the same street.
Cool man. The lakes are a beautiful place to sail.
Wouldn’t waste my breath, well, time to type… Sounds like a kid that don’t know what he wants but will soon find out… Just needs to learn what “hungry” means…
What do you mean I have to mop the floors and clean the toilets?!?!?
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Everyday, between 0001-0500 ??? Thats bullshit. Im a professional AB super awesome wannabe fucktard deckhand / aspiring captain. Seeing a few good ones here right now thank god.
hell yes. i love cookies.
Just out of curiosity, why does everyone talk so much shit about deckhand/AB’s? Or vise versa, deckeneer/Oilers… Hell weren’t y’all there also? I’ve caught alot of hell and been on quite a few different boats. But where I catch the most shit is from 100 ton captains… Big boat guys will let you work, correct you when needed, and if you don’t change set your shit on the dock for you… 100 ton captains will never cut you any slack, always crying and bitching and complaining even when your doing your job… I don’t mind the occasional asshole cause hell, I’m a dick myself… But why so much shit talk?
Small Tonnage captains feel like they have something to prove, because of their tiny little licenses. It’s like having a small dick. (I’ve heard). It makes them angry all the time. They probably have huge trucks also. I myself drive a Miata.
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I ride a moped here, nothing the prove either. But theres nothing worse than a 100-Ton know it all, plenty of 100-ton guys know their role and are cool but there are enough king neptunes out there like this guy. The worse deckhands I see are usually 100-Ton captains, without an AB of course.
[QUOTE=josh.reid24;165299]Just out of curiosity, why does everyone talk so much shit about deckhand/AB’s? Or vise versa, deckeneer/Oilers… Hell weren’t y’all there also? I’ve caught alot of hell and been on quite a few different boats. But where I catch the most shit is from 100 ton captains… Big boat guys will let you work, correct you when needed, and if you don’t change set your shit on the dock for you… 100 ton captains will never cut you any slack, always crying and bitching and complaining even when your doing your job… I don’t mind the occasional asshole cause hell, I’m a dick myself… But why so much shit talk?[/QUOTE]
You ever see the “JB Wentworth commercial, i want my money and i need it now” ??? That explains the logic behind most guys coming out here today. I came out here at the end of a downturn when jobs where short and things wherent as friendly and PC as they are now. The saying @ PB&J fleet was that a 200 and 2 bucks would buy you a cup of coffee, all the new guys looked at you funny when they heard it was 5-6yrs to go steering. Seeing the same shit with the word “Chief” now, had a dirtbag unlicensed guy tell me he was gods great gift and an “officer” a few weeks ago, about fell over laughing. My point is alot of the newer guys arent hungry, and expect it to be given to them, or they stop advancing themselves with the minimum amount of paperwork and talk shit about the guys who do better.
Well what bothers me is I got hired on with a company the first week of January this year… An sure as you all know, the oilfield kicked the bucket soon after… I’ve went to sleep still on the boat after watching guys that been with the company 2-3 yrs get laid off, and I’m still here… I’m a deckhand… 23 yrs old… Little less than 2 yrs experience on boats, working on my AB to get on a larger vessel to hope one day get my 3rd Mate Unlimited… So to see someone sit there an talk shit about deckhands kinda strikes a nerve… You were all once in our shoes. You all at one time think you knew everything (most of you still probably do)… All I’m saying is do what my first capt did with me… Take the time to slow the fuck down and teach… Don’t just bitch and raise hell an cuss and throw a fit like a child… If there not teachable, put there shit on the dock for them… That simple… Watched my first skipper (thankfully an old school capt) put a many people shit on the dock for them…
The problem is delivery. Things are rough right now, and when a person comes on here asking about any job leads and then has the audacity to put up self imposed barriers, it can be a little insulting. Its safe to assume a lot of them are entry level, or don’t have much experience for the job they are seeking.
As far as training goes, I’ve never been the kind of guy to withhold information. I’m all about advancement. However, the person has to have some gumption too. Nothing worse than wasting your breath on someone who doesn’t give a shit.
In these tough times, a lot of guys have a sense of entitlement on where they will or won’t work, too. Most jobs requiring nothing more than a os/wiper pay pretty decent considering it didn’t take much to get the MMD.
If I was out of work, I"d go flip burgers if it meant supporting my family. Yeah, I’m a career mariner and I hope things don’t get that bad in my case, but the point I"m making is sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to set yourself up better in the future.
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That is a good attitude to have and I feel the same way. I can tell you that it is easy to forget even when you have been there. In 1997 I was driving a $300 dollar car and living with my grandparents. Of course today I am doing OK, but if I were to lose my job, I would be in trouble pretty quick. Sure I have my emergency fund and no debt, but life is expensive even when you cut out all the wants and nice to haves. I hear people all the time say that they wouldn´t do this or that. Or that they would never go back to the US Gulf after working over seas. The truth of it is don´t ever say never, because it tastes horrible when you have to eat those words. There are so many changes, cutbacks, lay offs and much more it is heart breaking to see colleagues move on. In the best of times it was not as big a deal. You could rest assured that the person would land on their feet. Not so much today. I was not completely blind sided by this down turn in the market, but knowing it was coming is not making it any easier now. I am one of the lucky ones so far, but this could be far from over. I am thankful for my employment and for what I have. If we (including myself)spent more time appreciating what we do have and less time on what we don´t, things would be much better for everyone.
Hell if they raise the minimum wage to $15 an hr I might just go flip burgers to better afford to get my AB… Lmao