What are they? I called,the nmc and got screwed around and no direct answer. Google ab limited restrictions does not tell me a damn thing.
I want to go work for msc but if unlimited guys are being turned down…if you just have limited what does that restrict me on?
You can still work on unlimited tonnage vessels. The only catch is unlimited vessels are only allowed so many AB limited people, the rest have to be AB unlimited. Really all it does is make you less marketable.
Not a mariner yet, but from 46 CFR 12.403:
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(1) Able seaman—unlimited. Three years of service on deck on vessels operating on oceans or on the Great Lakes.
(2) Able seaman—limited. Eighteen months of service on deck on vessels of 100 GRT or more which operate in a service not exclusively confined to the rivers and smaller inland lakes of the United States.[/I]
To me it just seems like less experience on vessels in a certain body of water.
"Not a mariner yet, but from 46 CFR 12.403:
(1) Able seaman—unlimited. Three years of service on deck on vessels operating on oceans or on the Great Lakes.
(2) Able seaman—limited. Eighteen months of service on deck on vessels of 100 GRT or more which operate in a service not exclusively confined to the rivers and smaller inland lakes of the United States.
To me it just seems like less experience on vessels in a certain body of water."
You are correct that those are the requirements, I was just referring to what the limited vs. unlimited means pertaining to where and, on what tonnage you can work.
Aye, you beat me to first reply, but at least now they got the layman’s terms with the CFR to back it up.
Thanks guys. The first post nailed it. I was looking for the real world restrictions on my rateing. Well maybe msc will pick me up because of 7 years on offshore rigs.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Menizzi;172357]What are they? I called,the nmc and got screwed around and no direct answer. Google ab limited restrictions does not tell me a damn thing.
I want to go work for msc but if unlimited guys are being turned down…if you just have limited what does that restrict me on?[/QUOTE]
See page B4-8 of Volume III of the Marine Safety Manual:
Individuals qualified as able seamen—unlimited may constitute all of the able seamen required on a vessel.
Individuals qualified as able seamen—limited may constitute all of the able seamen required on a vessel of less than 1,600 GRT or on a vessel operating on the Great Lakes and the Saint Lawrence River as far east as Sept Iles. Individuals qualified as able seamen—limited may constitute not more than 50 percent of the number of able seamen required on board other vessels.
[QUOTE=Menizzi;172365]Thanks guys. The first post nailed it. I was looking for the real world restrictions on my rateing. Well maybe msc will pick me up because of 7 years on offshore rigs.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
With that much time, can you upgrade to AB Unlimited?
[QUOTE=Menizzi;172357]What are they? I called,the nmc and got screwed around and no direct answer. Google ab limited restrictions does not tell me a damn thing.
I want to go work for msc but if unlimited guys are being turned down…if you just have limited what does that restrict me on?[/QUO
In MSC they do not have any restrictions on a certain endorsement as long as you have one of those AB’s in your MMD. And if you applied for an AB position and given an opportunity to be hired, then, you can be an AB on board the same as those AB’s that currently have work onboard the MSC ships.
[QUOTE=josesastre82;172477]In MSC they do not have any restrictions on a certain endorsement as long as you have one of those AB’s in your MMD. And if you applied for an AB position and given an opportunity to be hired, then, you can be an AB on board the same as those AB’s that currently have work onboard the MSC ships.[/QUOTE]
MSC may not care but the CFRs have restrictions on what an AB Limited can do. (Only 50% of the ABs required to be onboard may be AB Limited.). It would therefore me very likely increase your chances of getting hired if you have an AB Unlimited.
It was so hard getting the sea time paperwork from 2005 that i am not even going to try for the rig time. They did give me 683 days credit tho. But thank you for setting me stright on the restrictions. I worked inside on the rigs. Catering crew sodexo. I had to hit rock bottom in my life before i started researching my navy time and working outside. Oh well. Its not a crime to fail only to not try.