A Mari Usque Ad Mare Ad Mare


#121

What will the opening of Yamal LNG mean for Arctic Shipping and the NSR??:


#122

If anybody have manage to miss it; the Russians is busy building up their presents and capabilities in the Arctic and the Chinese are eager to finance the activity:
https://www.arcticnow.com/arctic-news/2017/12/29/arkhangelsk-governor-confirms-china-as-key-arctic-partner/

Where is Europe and USA in this picture??


#123

A Polar Silk Road via the NSR:


#124

Norway and Finland wants to be part of any Chinese expansion in the Arctic and along the NSR:


#125

More on the Maud. with her background story:
https://www.skipsrevyen.no/article/maud-polarskipet-som-kommer-hjem/


#126

Bad link, 404 error. Has … in the middle instead of the full path.


#127

New link to same article. Try again.


#128

The Arctic is hotting up in more ways than one.
The Arctic Council will have a busy time under Finnish chairmanship:
http://www.arctic-council.org/index.php/en/our-work2/8-news-and-events/485-sao-levi-2018-01


#129

Russia is stepping up their efforts in the Arctic:


Autonomous no less.


#130

And Norway is upping the ante as well:


#131

More on this project in Barents Observer a couple of days ago:


This is because the ice is now too thin and unreliable to build bases on drifting ice flakes.

The annual camp at the North Pole had to pack up early this year for the same reason:


#132

Heavy fuel ban in the arctic is coming:
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/the-worlds-dirtiest-fuel-will-be-banned-from-arctic-shipping-heres-how/


#133

Update about the return trip of the polar vessel MAUD
See more here:
http://www.maudreturnshome.no/uncate...home-hometrip/


#134

This Baymaud business is not something that Norway should be proud of. That is our first winter radio station in the north, and was a precious source of income and tourism for Cambridge Bay, which needs all they can get. What is the history of radio in Svalbard worth? What role did it play in Norway inching its way out of the spirit of the Treaty of Versailles and ending up with this bloated maritime boundry? What would Norwegians say if Telenor sold Hopen back to the Germans for a Krone?
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#135

I don’t know if most Norwegians are proud of the fact that the Maud is on it’s way back to Norway. Most likely most doesn’t know, or care.
I don’t know of many in Cambridge Bay care that she is gone either. After all she sunk in 1930. I don’t think there were many visitors coming there because of the wreck, at least until she was refloated by the Norwegian salvors.
Here is a bit of background from CBC last year:

In any case I don’t know what Svalbard has to do with it. Especially not Telenor and Hopen Island??
Are you sure you didn’t get mixed up with a much more contemporary case about another place called Hopen?:

The Germans did have sovereignty of Svalbard, incl. Hopen until the end of WWI, when it was given to Norway in the Versailles treat. They also set up a meteorological station on Hopen during WWII as well.

There is an interesting story about the surrender of that station at the end of WWII:

So the last German surrender in Europe was at Hopen. (Some Japanese soldiers in PNG and the Philippines did not surrender until many years later, however)

PS> If you should wish to visit Hopen during the coming X-mas, here is a description of what to expect:


PPS> The picture is obviously not from that time of the year.


#136

Your opinions aren’t all that informed in this issue.

Keep the Baymaud in Canada, a committee of 20 Cambridge Bay residents, is aiming to block the Norwegian’s efforts and keep the 95-year-old ship underwater. The shipwreck is one of the community’s few tourist attractions, say committee members, and locals earn money by motoring visiting cruise ship passengers to the wreck site.
“While we don’t deny the importance of the Maud to Norway, one also cannot deny the fact that she is a Canadian archaeological site that has been there since 1930 and should not be removed,”

“She’s not a toy. She’s a historical artifact,” Cambridge Bay mayor Syd Glawson told Northern News Service in early June. “We respect her. She’s laying in her home, right now.”

Normally, the Nunavut Department of Culture would simply be able to deny salvage permits to the Norwegians. But in this case, the Department’s hands are tied since the Maud is legally Norwegian property. In 1990, the Hudson’s Bay Company transferred the wreck to the town of Asker, Norway for $1. In June, Asker handed the deed to the Maud Returns Home project.

Its meant as an analogy. A rather tight one, too. Norway has its wealth because of its oil, its oil because of its territorial claims, and a great deal of its territorial claims, in part, due to its maintenance of radio in places like Hopen. As I’ve said before, coming into another country and looting their heritage is very bad behaviour. It has real consequences, especially to really small towns where life is already very difficult and opportunities are scarce: I guess its not like that in Norway now-a-days, but you don’t have to look back very far into your own history to get some idea what that must be like. Anyway, the Norwegians might have profited more from Baymaud had they left her in place:

Starting at more than $20’000 CAD a head, wont the Hurtigruten passengers of the Roald Amundsen be disappointed that there’s no evidence that the guy ever came to Cambridge Bay? One low end ticket costs about the same as what it costs for one person to live for 6 months in Cambridge Bay. Norwegians are interested in the North? They feel like its part of their history, too? They want to see it? Welcome! Please come. But don’t loot it, and try to contribute to the economy some.

If they wanted to invest in the history of the Baymaud, why not build a museum in Cambridge Bay, train and hire local people to work there, maybe sponsor a student to go study in Norway. As you say,

So why not leave her in the one place where people do care? A place where people come because they are interested in that kind of thing? Congratulations, another dusty boat for the museums in Oslo… there’s already so many there it takes you a week to tour them.


#137

The frequency that you have deduced is I believe correct but the frequency was normally used for aircraft DF beacons. Frequencies of use to submarines for communications are far lower frequencies, remember Omega.


#138

What the hell are you talking about? The Svalbard treaty was signed in 1920, 19 years before the start of WW2.


#139

Same to you, what the hell are you talking about?
Jan Mayen was a trade with UK, Norway gave up our claim on the Sverdrup Islands in return of UK recognition of Norwegian sovereignty of Jan Mayen. And a Canadian talking about bloated maritime boundaries are really the pot calling the kettle black.

Your heritage? It’s Norwegian Arctic history.


#140

Baymaud1
baymaud2
Canadian heritage, as described in the book Ships of Discovery and Exploration by Lincoln P. Paine, 2000.

telenor
Norwegian heritage, as described by Mathias Bjerrang in Telektronikk Volume 90 Number 3, in 1994.