From the IFSMA website:
[I]“The title of “Captain” is very jealously safeguarded by those Master Mariners who have served in Command”[/I]
If you hold a Master certificate but you never served in command of a vessel, you should not use the title of Captain: a practical example, there may be more than one Master Mariner aboard a ship, but only one is the Captain. My Chief Mate holds a Master license, but he is Mr. so and so.
The only person who should be referred to ashore as “Captain” is Bob Keeshan - Captain Kangaroo.
[QUOTE=CaptVal;33518]From the IFSMA website:
[I]“The title of “Captain” is very jealously safeguarded by those Master Mariners who have served in Command”[/I]
If you hold a Master certificate but you never served in command of a vessel, you should not use the title of Captain: a practical example, there may be more than one Master Mariner aboard a ship, but only one is the Captain. My Chief Mate holds a Master license, but he is Mr. so and so.
http://www.ifsma.org/tempannounce/captain.html[/QUOTE]
I fit that description, but it’s kind of foolish. A Captain does not “use” a title - he is only described by others as that while serving in that capacity. Everyone knows who the Captain is - or should - on a ship. Why would you need to call yourself the Captain besides once for the crew list? Most introduce me as the Captain, but if I shake hands, I just use my first name - the one my mother gave me. The day I have to start calling myself Captain - will most likely coincide with the day I did a bad job as one. I am called Captain on the ship, but not by me. Exceptions would be while [B]not[/B] serving in that capacity - like on the beach - when context may be needed in conversation. I have been on other ships where someone - that I have worked with on my own ship - has called me Captain, but I was filling in a lesser capacity on another vessel. I let them know right away that I’m gladly not the Captain here, and that is not part of my name, so give it a rest.
And one post wonders are referred to as trolls.
[QUOTE=anchorman;33574]I fit that description, but it’s kind of foolish. A Captain does not “use” a title - he is only described by others as that while serving in that capacity. Everyone knows who the Captain is - or should - on a ship. Why would you need to call yourself the Captain besides once for the crew list? Most introduce me as the Captain, but if I shake hands, I just use my first name - the one my mother gave me. The day I have to start calling myself Captain - will most likely coincide with the day I did a bad job as one. I am called Captain on the ship, but not by me. Exceptions would be while [B]not[/B] serving in that capacity - like on the beach - when context may be needed in conversation. I have been on other ships where someone - that I have worked with on my own ship - has called me Captain, but I was filling in a lesser capacity on another vessel. I let them know right away that I’m gladly not the Captain here, and that is not part of my name, so give it a rest.[/QUOTE]
I don’t find the description foolish, but rather pretty straightforward. A licensed Master who served in command is called Captain, mind you that he or she doe not call himself or herself with such title, but he or she is addressed with the title by others.
[QUOTE=Jon;33655]And one post wonders are referred to as trolls.[/QUOTE]
I guess everybody has been a troll at one stage.
[QUOTE=Jon;33655]And one post wonders are referred to as trolls.[/QUOTE]
I am fairly sure that a “troll” is someone who is trolling for a fight. A one post wonder is a JONG.
I would like to refer to the 2nd post of this one, while on board the person holdind the post as “master” is the captain, why is there any debate. However, I will say this, durring my time at my last job, I tried to explain to a gentleman thinking about purchasing clothline for his anchorline, in my least condescending voice I have, tried to explain to him he was incorrect. When he told me he was a 100 ton master with an equally opposite voice, I just told him that I know that I am a 2nd mate AGC and I must be wrong that you would want to use clothesline for your anchorline, but hey, you are the captain
[QUOTE=Emills505;33751]I would like to refer to the 2nd post of this one, while on board the person holdind the post as “master” is the captain, why is there any debate. However, I will say this, durring my time at my last job, I tried to explain to a gentleman thinking about purchasing clothline for his anchorline, in my least condescending voice I have, tried to explain to him he was incorrect. When he told me he was a 100 ton master with an equally opposite voice, I just told him that I know that I am a 2nd mate AGC and I must be wrong that you would want to use clothesline for your anchorline, but hey, you are the captain[/QUOTE]
Granted, it is Nevada
You would never hear engineers involved in a discussion like this.
[QUOTE=JAFO;33770]You would never hear engineers involved in a discussion like this.[/QUOTE]
That is funny, but true - too many other fish to fry - to be engaging how others or yourself are called - title wise - after the fact - it is clear while on the Ship. I find it pretty amusing myself, even as a Master, and holding the position. By some, we are like the Jimmy Carter of the high sea - like when they refer to him as Mr.President thirty years after the fact.
I don’t need Mrs.Rockefeller throwing her Louis Vuitton luggage on me in a hotel lobby because someone called me “Captain”.
A future insurance salesman.
Retired military Captains can call themselves “Captain”. What about a retired military Captain that works in a maritime environment, but has never worked on a ship in his life, and calls himself “Captain”, leading others to think he’s a Master mariner. Shady. Backfires when he doesn’t have the nautical knowledge that others expect.
Around the gulf coast many of the sport fishing boat guys eat the “CAPTAIN” title up. My dad, name is Bob, would be refered to as “Captain Bob”,all he would say is my name is Bob,drop that Captain SHIT.
[QUOTE=anchorman;2572]…and if you’re from Australia, you’re a mate and a captain.[/QUOTE]
If I am under contract to more than one company as Captain, can I then be called Admiral or at least Commodore?
[QUOTE=Steamer;33780]A future insurance salesman.[/QUOTE]
Now that is just not fair…too close to the mark!!
Will this allow me to petition the USCG Commander for a medal or metal?