I suggest that you start with the Seattle based seafood companies as a processor on a factory trawler fishing in Alaska. Google. It’s a little late for the season starting In January, but if you look hard, you’ll find something. No TWIC or MMC or experience required. Long hours, hard work, rough weather, decent pay. After that, any other boat job is easy. The seatime won’t count toward AB, but so what. You will learn how to live and work on a boat for months at a time. The experience has value toward getting your foot in the next door.
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And where does American mariners come from? They are not all originating from large cities.
On the rigs and boats working around the world the majority appeared to be from villages, farms and small cities.
In fact, most of the Americans on the rigs I have been on over the years where living from I-20 and south, concentrated between Shreveport and Jackson, with a sprinkling from the NW and even California.
I presume it isn’t all that much different in the GoM?
There is a peculiar standard in American language to use the term ‘small town’ in place of ‘village’ if that settlement is within the continental United States. We Americans would not talk about a ‘village in Montana’ or a ‘Louisiana village.’ It just doesn’t sound right in American English.
The rest of the world can have villages. Oddly enough we would say there is an ‘Alaskan village’ or a ‘village in Hawaii.’ A ‘Norwegian village’ or a ‘village in China’ doesn’t sound strange. It’s just a linguistic oddity that Americans have ‘small towns’ in place of villages.
(Read threw our modern journalism or listen to American radio and television and you’ll see this in action.)
Therefore the answer to your question is that most American mariners don’t come from villages unless they came from Alaska, Hawaii or the territories.
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Thank you for pointing out that the terms “village” and “villager” are not derogatory. Your lame attempt to equate the term village with inferior quality or lack of Norwegian virtues is disingenuous at best and most likely just another trolling effort.
But since you brought American villages into the conversation;
Chesire Village, Connecticut (population < 6000) has a median annual income per resident of more than $102,000 and a poverty rate of less than 2 percent. It is not 3rd world by any definition.
According to Philippine government statistics, the average annual family income in 2015 was just over US $5300. The average salary in Manila is about $7400 USD.
I will leave it to your own febrile imagination to figure out what the resident of a fishing village on one of the islands makes each day. It is so little that any seafaring job is a literal gold mine in comparison and highly attractive to the villagers of that 3rd world nation.
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Top definition
villager
complete condescension, implying simplicity
Chris you are such a villager
by kunal April 29, 2003
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villager
A poor needy person that needs charity. A villager is any dirty poor person in your town that makes you cringe and makes your heart bleeds for them.
The appearance of a villager will usually be mangy, dirty, scummy, whatever you’d like to call it.
Some villagers may try to do themselves up with thier second hand clothes but they arent fooling anyone…
You can still tell they’re a villager.
that villager’s dad dosen’t work and the whole family smells garbage.
#low life#ugly#dirty#scumbucket#village
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Someone who lives/works in the Washington, DC bubble, and has zero perspective. Basically, a journalistic or political hack, who looks in the mirror and thinks they see “America”.
“Villagers all think that the only reason Clinton’s numbers dropped precipitously after the Comey letter was her bad personality and campaign”
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Or oddly enough the village of Kings Point…
Merry Christmas you guyz
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Annual income or wealth doesn’t make anybody better or worse than anybody else, nor more or less cultured or whatever.
In Asia we are using the term “peasant” in a derogatory way, not just for somebody working on a farm. A rich person driving a Mercedes 500 may still be called a peasant, depending on his/her manners and attitude.
That only applies to native settlements.
Fighting a straw man there, bugge. Steamer never called them peasants, that was the new guy. His post was definitely derogatory. Big difference between third world villager and “flea-ridden third world peasants”, which I agree is unfair and unacceptable.
I didn’t say that Steamer used the term Peasants, only that that is a derogatory term used in Asia.
Any one is as bad as the other.
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In the case of our fellow seafarers from Asia both are wrong and demeaning. I don’t know how large % of the world’s seafarers come from villages by whatever name, or from metropolises. In China and the other places in Asia there are more of the last than in all of Europe and North America combined.
All I say is it is as demeaning to both the ones that use derogatory terms towards their fellow seafarers as it is to those you try to demean. I think it reflects more on the standing of user than on the one at the receiving end.
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Yes. There are no “Alaska Viilages”, or Alaska communities with village in the official name, but there are hundreds of “Native Villages.” Most of these Native Villages are very Third World. The situation is the same in the Canadian Arctic, east or west.
Politically, most Native Villages in Alaska with a population over about 100 people is incorporated as a “City”. In all but the largest Native Villages (that are technically “cities”) the sole police officer is a VPSO (Village Public Safety Officer) that is trained, and as I recall paid by the State of Alaska.
In the Northeastern US, a few towns are named such and such Village, but generally the term “village” refers to the population and commercial center of a small town. Similar to
England. Some municipalities are a political combination of several separate Villages. Some Villages are political subdivisions of municipalities and have limited self governing powers.
Last I heard ITF ABs made something like $14,000 per year for nine month onboard. No American or Western European can compete with that. This is why “protectionism” is essential or there will be no American of Western European mariners left.
I was once a resident of Westwood Village in west LA (at the bottom in the photo):
and I’m no flee-ridden peasant.
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The name of the town/City having “village” in it doesn’t make it a village or show that Americans refer to things in this country as villages.
don’t blame these poor “third world villagers” for the decline in our industry…blame every US Congress and Administration since Richard Nixon for why it is in the pathetic state it is in today. Nobody in Washintoon in close to 50 years has done one single GODDAMNED thing to foster a strong maritime industry and because profits rule in the world of business, mandates for having a strong merchant fleet must come from leadership. With no pronouncements for having a strong merchant fleet as envisioned in the Merchant Marine Act of 1936 we see business fleeing the US flag where ever and when ever possible because that is where the money is! They now have done this almost exclusively and I expect most protected trades are going to fall by the wayside soon. Many already have to a large extent and the slippery slope only grows more greasy as decades pass.
so enough blaming others than just ourselves for this debacle…we are responsible for it because we are responsible for who leads the Nation or more accurately, allowing huge corporations to be the ones to choose who leads by buying their own personal elected representation with campaign cash.
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Yay! That’s it in a nutshell!
I couldn’t agree more. You have yourself to blame for the decline of your maritime business.
If you were living in these proverbial “villages” in a 3rd world country, or in a slum in a US city, would you not seek a better future anywhere you could find it??
Developers in LA come up with some good ones like calling an apartment complex that dead ends on a railroad track, Sunset Canyon Estates or Riverside Villas because they’re near the cemented ditch euphemistically called the Los Angeles River which carries runoff to the bay…
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It’s not just in the maritime business. Why blame the guilty when you can blame Mexicans for taking Americans’ jobs for a fraction of the pay. They’re only trying to survive by taking advantage of utterly failed immigration policies that greedy politicians refuse to fix.
Hey every village needs an idiot, in this case about 535 idiots. More if you count Bloomberg’s editorial board.
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Stop trying to maneuver the discussion around to make it read as if we are blaming the 3rd world villagers or accusing them of anything. The point is that those 3rd world villagers represent the lowest wage workers available to the corporate parasites and scumbags who are selling off our nation job by job in order to fatten their own personal treasury.
Our politicians have sold themselves and our lives to a handful of self appointed elites who in previous eras would have been driven to the guillotine. We are the victims of a kind of propaganda machine that works so well they have turned us against our own children and their future by believing their future and the society we leave them is our enemy. They have convinced blue collar workers, the uneducated, and the dispossessed that fascists like Trump are their saviors. They can’t even begin to see that they are nothing but cattle to be milked and slaughtered to feed the newest version of royalty. They will curse the idea of health care even as their home is foreclosed because the cost of a broken leg has driven them into bankruptcy.
It is not the 3rd world villager we should fear, it is the American corporate elite in Washington and New York, it is the American owner of the shipping company who pockets the difference between American wages and those of the cheapest 3rd world laborer.
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