Washing Machine Maintenance Aboard

Clever exercise shown in refurbishing that machine. All those screws would drive me mad, I probably would lose most of them…

We had greasers no donkey men, they were more or less the next generation of donkey men after the steam period.

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My grandparents had an old style wooden washing machine with wringer in the basement which was rare in those days. It was driven by an electrical motor. It looked like a lot as the one in the picture.

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I was surprised the guy could still get parts.

There are two “hot” legs 120v each and a neutral/ground. The ground/neutral is to provide a necessary reference point. Breakers are DPST. The ground and neutral are common unless one runs a separate ground. In electrical terms the Philippines is a TNC system. If you wire 120v to one pole of a breaker bought and installed in a box bought in the Philippines it will trip on overheat.
The “ground” rods are only about 60cm too.

At the end it was mentioned that he had cannibalized another machine.

I saw that but it looked like new parts for the carburetor and spark plug wiring.

I see. That’s rather special then. Although you don’t want to know what people have stored in their sheds and attics…:slightly_smiling_face:

A tune came to mind “ the day the music died.”

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when you put your meter in the socket you get 220 between the top pins and 110 between either one of those and what should be the earth pin
That says 100v 2 phase

The commercial front loaders are nice, you can keep them going forever, until stuff starts to rust out after decades, longer than that with enough silicone and epoxy. Hard to get anyone to shell out for equally burly replacements if one suffers a catastrophic casualty or runs out of long-obsolete control boards, though.

I always try to plant those seeds with anyone who controls the washing machine budget. “Say, you know where you can get machines made for heavy use and regular maintenance and repair? The laundromat industry!” etc.

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The Miele seems like the higher risk option. They are used on high-end yachts but not, IFAIK in commercial laundromats.

Well, there’s the Miele professional range:

However, I have no basis for saying that they are any better than other brands of professional machines.

The “professional” moniker sets certain expectations for duty cycle rating, serviceability and aftermarket support. A “residential” machine should come with contemporary color choice, multi-stage dosing system for synthetic flower juice, and confusing interface design full of marketing class buzz words (never forget to engage the climate neutral ultra comfort proactive fluffer cycle).

Miele seems to offer certain professional level features in their residential machines. I’m not entirely sure I’ve got that right, because to be honest, they bought my eternal loyalty with that letter to my dad.

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My post doesn’t mention it but I was thinking how it would look if someone convinced the boss that a high-end machine was the way to go and a year later it’s not working out.

Not that it was more likely to fail but how it would look if it did. Seems like if the commercial SpeedQueen fails you’d be on firmer ground.

Jeff Bezos uses on one on his yacht might not sound like a good argument.

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Well if you are of a mind to “buy once, cry once” these Milnor brands hold up to drill ship usage. They are pretty maintainable. Of course doesn’t stop people from washing tools, pens, ear plugs but that usually just results in keeping the drain valve open which becomes apparent soon enough. Ours dropped thru lint catcher on the way to gray water system but if they could squeeze in a basket before the drain valve that would have been sweet.

The commercial Speed Queens would be great on a larger vessel, especially a new boat, but they are too big to replace the apartment sized machines on most tugs.

It’s too common for laundry machines to be installed in the fiddley, rather than inside to accommodations. I can think of a couple of boats that have them outside on the boat deck.

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Lot’s of different scenarios, we had two laundry rooms with two machines each for a total of four washing machines. Plus room for a spare machine.

Be a different deal with one machine and no spare.

I think most European owned/operated ships have Miele washing machines on board, they are an expensive brand but renowned for their reliability on ships.

Apparently some of their most modern washing machines can be linked and used via wifi, that might be a great feature on a ship as you could be able to check if there are any free washing machines from your cabin over wifi without having to physically to go down and check in person.

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Which brand of washing machibe? I am using Giantex Top-Load Twin and its still working fine.

Some thoughts from the “office”. I spent far too much of my time last year researching washers and dryers for our ships (foreign flag Panamax bulkers and Handymax product tankers). Electrical requirements varied by ship, either 220/60/1 or 450/60/3. My goal was to standardize the fleet for all new purchases. Washer capacity requirements were 6-8 kgs. Dryer requirement was to be heated/vented (not condensing).

Miele Professional is very nice. Not the most expensive option, either. But no 450V units.

Speed Queen and Unimac were nice too, but 450V machines were too costly ($7,500+).

Primus not considered due to cost, $7,500+ and poor customer service.

Electrolux (also branded as Asko) is a good product, with 450V machines in $4,500-6,000 range. 220V machines were $3,500-4,500.

Wesco Navy from Hamburg was the winner. 450V machines $4,000-5,000 for our size range. Machines built for ships, in different sizes, and all spare parts sold separately. They offered a 2 year warranty as well (even if installed by the crew). We had these machines on two ships already and knew they were reliable. Made in Germany as well.

Sadly, electronics are not avoidable. I also wanted something most basic as possible. When I realized every machine is going to have a circuit board and display panel, my next thought is which manufacturer would give support to the crew in troubleshooting, and will they sell spare parts. Some require you go back to an authorized dealer. Others have zero troubleshooting input (“we can send a technician”). During my research a control board failed on a 10+ year-old Wesco washer on board one of our ships. I called their office in Hamburg, described the problem, confirmed new board was needed, and had a quote to my email before hanging up. Part in stock, cost EUR 289, would ship next day. Their manuals also show how to make almost any repair, even down to how to disassemble the machines in correct order.

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Mine Miele washing machine got a problem every fortnightly from last two months. Every other day broken wire issue. I have contacted the miele professionals they told some improved part is the issue