Viking Navigation

The Vikings used much the same methods of navigation on their voyages across oceans:

But they also used a crude kind of compass, known as a “Leidarstein”:

Another type of compass used by the Vikings was the “shadow board”, the so-called sólskyggafjól:


https://www.vikingeskibsmuseet.dk/en/professions/education/knowledge-of-sailing/instrument-navigation-in-the-viking-age

They may also have used what was called “sunstones” to “see” the sun on cloudy days:

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Looks like the Vikings really got around, at least judging from this “picture”:

Source: Vikings in Canada | Royal Ontario Museum.

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The Chinese were the first to use a crude “magnetic compass”:

The Vikings MAY have learnt about the use of “Leidarstein” (Leading stone, or Lodestone) from the Arabs, or they MAY have discovered the properties of magnetite independently.

In any case, it didn’t solve all problems of knowing direction in cloudy, foggy North Atlantic waters.
A piece of Magnetite floating on water was not a very accurate “compass” on a rolling and pitching boat, so it was still possible to go “hafvilla” on a crossing from Norway to Iceland, Greenland or Vinland.
The invention of gimbal to keep the compass bowl level didn’t happen before much later.

PS> For those who wants to know more about early exploration in the Arctic, here is the book “In Northern Mist” by Fridtjof Nansen, published in English in 1911:
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40633/40633-h/40633-h.htm

It is/was available on Amazon:

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There are runes carved into the stone of Hagia Sophia in Istanbul and Vikings were guards of the emperor in Constantinople. The Persians had advanced knowledge of astronomy from the 10th century and Vikings were trading maidens from Hungary etc to the arabs. I imagined they had a primitive arrangement with a lodestone.

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I bow to Nansen’s expertise.

Here is a newly discovered Viking ship “drawing” that has been found in Norway:

Source: Under mosa fant Lars Ole og Tormod det største helleristnings-­skipet på 125 år – NRK Østfold – Lokale nyheter, TV og radio

PS> No indication of any Leidarstein onboard though.

I’ve no doubt Scandinavians were at the forefront of venturing, after all, they and northern germans are credited with helping to end the roman empire.
being of Scandinavian decent I have to wonder how they ever ended up being so pacifist on the political front.

Maybe they finally took to their senses and realized that killing each other doesn’t solve any problems.
Living in harmony with each others and with nature is a much better way than war.

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and less expensive

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Yes indeed, a lot less expensive.
Just imagine the amount of good that could be done with the money saved from not needing to “defend” yourself against enemies (real or imagined).
Problems are NOT solved with weapons (or with tariffs) but with dialogue.

BTW; Since everybody claim they just need weapons for “defence”, who is the attacker(s)?

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In my experience if you go out and try and apprehend someone that is up to no good within your Exclusive Economic Zone a policeman’s whistle doesn’t cut it. You need a gun conspicuous by its size on the front so the dialogue can start.

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In wrong thread maybe?

No longer, they are in NATO now.

Teddy Roosevelt had it, “Talk softly and carry a big stick”.

The NORDIC countries may not be “pacifists” in the true sense of the word, but they are known as peacemakers, not warmongers.

Yes ALL have armed forces (except Iceland) In the present situation in the world the Nordic countries armed forces are especially active in the high north and arctic area:

They also take part in peacekeeping operations under UN mandate, as well as both NATO and EU maritime protective operations around the world.

Yes they are.
As of this year ALL Nordic countries are NATO members, with Sweden finally being willing to give up their longstanding neutrality and Turkey (the country, not the bird) finally giving up on blocking it’s membership acceptance.
Denmark, Iceland and Norway were among the original signatory nations.

Note; NATO is a mutual defensive organization, where ALL members agree to defend each other if attacked by an outside power (Article 5).
There are NO agreement to support other members in attacking, or in aggression against other nations.

PS> So far only USA has ever invoked Article 5.
Let us hope nobody will have to in the future.

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I agree to a point. With the major powers the weapons are not just for defense but also offense. Why? There is a LOT of money to be made and the taxpayers pay for it to the detriment of their own well being. Germany’s ‘defensive’ build up in the 1930s was paid for by the German people. General Motors, Ford, BASF, Bayor among others were recipients. But history has shown that dialogue without potential threat doesn’t work…History has also shown that unlimited military spending and income inequality is the primary cause of a nations failure. Unfortunate that history is not taught as much as it used to be.

The Shetlanders know their roots and celebrates them:


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PS> Nice to have Viking blood in your veins when on this forum :rofl:

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