Are Aussie fishermen/fishing boats armed?
sure, its normal, rifle and shotgun. Unlikely to have handgun down south, not needed and hard to have legally.
In croc country up north likely to both and have hand gun.
Remember we have things in the water that can eat you.
All those things are protected but you can kill in self defense
Are Aussie fishing boats operating only in estuaries, competing with the āsaltiesā for their catch?
Are the shrimp boats in the Gulf of Carpentaria armed?
I didnāt see any weapons on any of the shrimpers in Karumba.
That proves your point then because all fishing boat crews leave their weapons out in the open and the first thing they do when they spot a stranger is brag about the weapons on display. ![]()
It was fairly common for super yachts to carry arms on arrival to NZ. Some owners seemed more worried than others. One magnificent yacht had an extensive armoury with grenade launchers and assault rifles. Not all the crew had been selected on their sailing ability. The normal procedures were followed and all arms were landed to police custody while the yacht was in NZ waters.
If a fishing vessel remains outside the EEZ then New Zealand doesnāt care how heavily armed it is but if it comes within NZ waters it comes under NZ law.
Do you know if any fishing vessel that have arrive in NZ ports, or operate in NZ EEZ and been found to have arms on board?
In the early 1990s there were a lot of Norwegian Factory Trawlers fishing Orange Roughy in NZ EEZ. I was partner in a company that supplied Indonesian production crews to some of them. Never any problem because of weapons AFAIK.
We were also Ownerās Rep. when one of them came to Singapore for docking. No weapons on board on arrival.
I also took over an arrested Russian Longliner in Pusan on behalf of buyers. She had been fishing in Alaskan waters for American Seafood. No weapons on board
I donāt know because it only becomes a reportable offence if the weapons are not declared on entry and our customs rummage squads are very efficient.
The only reason I was aware of what was onboard the super yacht was I observed the weapons being landed after being declared. The super yacht was issued with a receipt for the weapons and they were returned when the vessel cleared from NZ.
A USN vessel personnel left their ship in their own transport to pick up money from a bank not far from our naval base many years ago. The heavily armed naval party were briefly detained by our local unarmed police and returned to their vessel. The party returned and completed their transactions at the bank unarmed.
This seems a little like the drunk searching for his keys under the streetlight.
The linked article in the OP says the incident took place in the Indian Ocean and it involved a shipboard security team. It also says the accused allege that the people killed were pirates.
Any data collected in the waters of NZ or Norway where the risk of piracy is just about nil is not a good indication of the probability of a F/V carrying arms in areas with risk of piracy is high.
Whatās next? Husband jailed because he found a sex offender in his neighbourhood and ratted him out to the local police BEFORE he did anything again? Oh boy . . .
You keep pushing your narrative with limited anecdotal tales but no backup. Thereās no shame in admitting you made an incorrect statement without thinking it through. If there were any weapons, they would have been removed shortly following arrest or else long before reaching your stewardship for the purpose of marketing the vessel.
Another thing to consider is that weapons are often stowed in hidden compartments to avoid confiscation.
Where is the backup that shows fishing boats around the world carry arms?
How do you prove a negative; āyes there are no weaponsā?
I agree that it happens in places liker Somalia and others where weapons are plentiful and the need for protection exists.
Maybe that is also the case in Alaska and other places in the US, where weapons are easy to come by, but that is not the case most places in the world.
As for NZ and Norway I know that there is no need for weapons in home waters,
The Whalers may carry rifles to give āCoup de graceā to ensure a quick and painless death for the whales.
PS> Both nations have fishing vessels operating in the Southern Ocean though, where they may feel the need to carry arms to protect themselves from Sea Shepard and other protesters. ![]()
(If so they probably declare them when entering NZ ports)
FYI: I was born in Norway, but that doesnāt mean I have been nowhere else, or know nothing about other places.
You initiated this by making a blanket statement supported by nothing more than a couple of flimsy anecdotes. Itās up to you to back up your statements. Instead you start a little tap dance; Norway this, Somalia that, Alaska maybe, protesters over yonder, gun toting whalers countering your own argumentā¦Iām not wasting any more time with it. No hard feelings.
You donāt seem to fully understand the internetā¦
Kembali.
Donāt give up! Youāre so close! Whenever you get ombugge to admit he might be mistaken about something gCaptain sends you a free t-shirt.
If anybody can show that MOST fishing vessels in the world carry guns on board Iāll admit that Iām wrong to say that MOST donāt.
PS> I donāt think youāll be out of many Tee-shirts John.
Iām not talking about hobby fishing boats operating in crocodile infested estuaries in Northern Australia, but commercial fishing vessels operating anywhere around the world.
Your statement: āMost fishermen and fishing boats donāt carry gunā
You own it, the burden of proof is on you. Good luck proving it.
Whereās my t-shirt?
If there are no weapons there are no shooting and thus nothing in the news.
But if fishermen start shooting at each other youāll probably hear/read about it., at least in civilised countries where such things are not normal.
You should go into politics. Such skills of twisting a truth is much admired there.
You must have learnt from a master of the art. (But it looks like he lost too) 