Riding off on a tangent is a tactic which is easily recognizable and frequently used in many debates in which liberal missionaries participate. Hence I flatly refuse to be drawn into such discussions.
My point in this Ukrainian debate is not about who is wrong and who is right , who is Hitler and who is not. My point from the very beginning is , that relying on one source of information and thus forming an opinion is like walking on a thin ice.
Hence i am throwing on the table links representing different points of view from different perspectives and i am not saying in definitive terms these are right . It means : please consider… I think it is reasonable.
I have thrown in this and “sister” threads enough literature and links which after reading and/or viewing should generate at least some reflection .
But all my efforts are wasted as all this is falling off like the water from ducks back, which by the way is another attribute / symptom of wokemon style of debates.
Reject the dissenting opinion, label it as conspiracy theory , ridicule the opponent, belittle him , stigmatize him/her, ban from social media, remove all records in search engines- all too well known symptoms of cancel culture , which claims the propriety rights to ultimate truth , their truth as only truth.
You rely on CNN, WAPO, NYT and others , that is fine with me and I have no problem with that at all. Your choice. I read both: right and left, conservative and liberal including center as it gives me a wider perspective . And that is reasonable too but it irritates the wokemons.
Please do not give me the" majority " sh…t as i have handled it a day or two ago with doctors example. Not enough to spark a reflection??
Then try S. Alinksy methods, open borders methods, “caring” for the proletariat methods, hand-outs , " voting mules" and other bizarre methods of creating majority including biased media joints. Or try J. Stalin formulas : QUOTE:
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I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.
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The State is an instrument in the hands of the ruling class, used to break the resistance of the adversaries of that class.
or H. Goering
“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”
— Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
END QUOTE.
Therefore my Dear Comrade pls make verifiable effort and read the material i have suggested including " The war on the west" and listen to/watch the clips. Otherwise -PLEASE!!!
(160) As Good As It Gets (Don’t Knock On This Door Scene) - YouTube
Sorry Pal , am not competent to answer such question and will not play Nostradamus. I can tell You only about my gut feeling :
(160) Independence Day (3/5) Movie CLIP - Nuke 'Em (1996) HD - YouTube
and keep You guessing who the ALLIEN may be sort of metaphorically 
The system suggests to switch to PM not to irritate other viewers who may be do not give a damn what You or me are thinking .
