President Trump unleashes American commercial fishing in the Pacific

You ever done any commercial fishing?

Yup. First ran away to sea in a prawn trawler.

How many seasons

A few months, then joined the navy at 16.

:joy: so you don’t know shit about it.

How much of your life has been government employment?

I never said I did. So what? You got a problem with that? I might add I spent several years in fisheries protection boarding and inspecting foreign fishing boats in our waters and in the direction of those operations from ashore. Oh, and I’ve got properly pissed with prawn boat crews. So I know what they smell like.

Read my bio. If you can read, that is. You’ll note I didn’t include my prawn boat time in there so you can assume it’s insignificant.

As for government employment I’m not aware of any navies that aren’t. It sorta goes with the job. I suppose we could have run a for-profit protection racket for drug runners, smugglers and illegal immigrant boats to gain the essential aspects of proper commercial activity to round out my experience in areas you deem I lack.

History

Got any science?

Got any sense or still just trolling?

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Because valuable fish species needs places where they can spawn, and their offspring can grow to adulthood, without been targeted (or by-catch) by commercial fishing fleets.

FYI; No entry zones around Offshore Oil & Gas installation and OWFs in the North Sea has been found to function as such “nurseries” for many species of fish.

PS> Any farmer that bring pregnant animals to the slaughter house would be locked up in a mental institution.

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Obama and the greenies got a little carried away with marine sanctuaries and fishing restrictions that were not supported by science or historical fishing experience.

There are ridiculous restrictions on American tugboats doing a little recreational fishing when passing through.

A total lack of common sense, and overreach.

If fishing in the US controlled areas of the Western Pacific is restricted to only American vessels with only American crew with American fisheries observers, it isn’t going to do any harm, and a lot of good data will be collected.

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Except historically that hasn’t been the case in this particular fishery. Reference the article I posted near the top

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Yes, the foreign crew wrapped in an American flag with a token master thing must not be allowed.

I have lived long enough to have experienced a time when I could announce “who wants crayfish for lunch at 11:00? Mask and snorkel on and serve Crayfish for lunch at 12:00.
In those same waters a gold nugget would be easier to find and the ecological damage caused by the overfishing of a species is obvious.
With PhD’s in my immediate family in marine biology, I have a reasonable idea of the value of marine reserves and quota systems.
They only work where a country can in force the rules or by robust international agreement.
The demand for seafood continues to increase and our ability to clear the oceans of all life accelerates.

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Not my question. It was written in English. It has its English meaning. Each of the words has meaning. Use them all to understand.

Here it is again with emphasis.

Your stupid reply would ban fishing everywhere for all time everywhere. Is that what you want? I suspect so. You want us to eat ze bugs.

Maybe YOU are !he one with problems reading, understanding and writing clearly in the English language?
“Fishing Zones” are used to delineate which areas of rivers open to sports fishing.
“Fishing Areas” are used by FAO to define ocean areas open to commercial fishing.
“Marine Protected Areas” are used to describe areas where marine life is protected from commercial fishing (or strongly limited).

So, in clear English:
In Fishing Areas commercial fishing is allowed, although with quotas set year to year by Marine Biologists, based on research.

How did you manage to read that into what I wrote (in clear English) about protection spawning and juvenile fish from commercial fishing?

“You want us to eat ze bugs?” Well, some people already do eat bugs.
Maybe we all should, The fishes will be happy: https://9gag.com/gag/azxjY9x

Where did those definitions come from? The Australian Fishing Zone (AFZ) for instance is simply the entirety of waters administered by Australia essentially encompassing waters out to 200 miles. Some of that is open and some (too much) closed to fishing.

My post asked why opening new areas (meaning places - not pedantic definitions) "to commercial fishing always and everywhere an unmitigated evil?

What’s always evil about a government opening a new place to fishing?

Oh yes, you say you want to protect spawning blah, blah blah. We all do. But you have simply declared the entire ocean as a spawning area and cannot allow fishing anywhere. I’m presuming sensible regulation. You presume environmental pillaging. Opening new areas should be done with careful consideration and regulation.

You first. I’m not playing that communist game.

I have. Roasted silkworm pupae and mealworms are favourit snacks in Thailand:


Fried silkworm in market, Thailand. Close up. Edible roasted and spiced meal worms, Bugs fried on street food in Thailand, Fried silk worm is the food in Thailand.
Source: https://www.dreamstime.com

PS> Bugs don’t have ideologies.

Good idea. Stick to fascism.

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Congratulation to the Aussies and their re-elected PM!!! Good on ya Mate!!!:

To Jughead I can only say; look at the bright side. At least the Greenies didn’t win!!

They would have tried to save the Great Barrier Reef from over exploitation, agricultural runoff and Global Warming. :fearful: :sob:
That would giving little fishes a change to grow big.

They MAY even try to ban foreign supertrawlers from Aussie waters and stop overfishing of prawns in the Gulf of Carpentaria.