The “Blue eyed Sheiks” has become richer, even with low oil price: http://www.smp.no/ntb/innenriks/2016/10/07/Hver-nordmann-har-14-millioner-i-oljefondet-13610178.ece?cx_front_click=baseline_test&cx_front_click_place=4&cx_front_click_articles=3
USD 1.- = NOK 8.-
[QUOTE=ombugge;191197]The “Blue eyed Sheiks” has become richer, even with low oil price: http://www.smp.no/ntb/innenriks/2016/10/07/Hver-nordmann-har-14-millioner-i-oljefondet-13610178.ece?cx_front_click=baseline_test&cx_front_click_place=4&cx_front_click_articles=3
USD 1.- = NOK 8.-[/QUOTE]
That’s nice. Try looking up the rate for the CAD, since I assumed she was bought from HBC in local currency. I’ll save you the trouble, it’s 1:6.
Btw, I like your stories and I don’t think you’re dragging down the forum. You were working as a mariner before my parents were born, and I really don’t mean to sound disrespectful when I disagree with you. Hope you know that.
[QUOTE=Emrobu;191206]That’s nice. Try looking up the rate for the CAD, [B][I]since I assumed she was bought from HBC in local currency.[/I][/B] I’ll save you the trouble, it’s 1:6.
Btw, I like your stories and I don’t think you’re dragging down the forum. You were working as a mariner before my parents were born, and I really don’t mean to sound disrespectful when I disagree with you. Hope you know that.[/QUOTE]
I don’t understand. Who is she that was bought from HBC?
The linked article was about how rich every Norwegian has become (at least in terms of their share of the Oil Fund) not the wreck of Maud.
Anyhow, thanks for those kind words, but you don’t have to worry, I’m not misreading you.
Like I have said several times, if everybody is of more or less the same background, with more or less same experience and opinion, why have a discussion at all?
Sorry if I upset somebody by not fitting the mould.
[QUOTE=ombugge;191212]
Sorry if I upset somebody by not fitting the mould.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, not sorry!
[QUOTE=Emrobu;191215]Sorry, not sorry![/QUOTE]
OK here is something that should cheer you up: http://thechronicleherald.ca/metro/1403104-irving-puts-2m-into-arctic-research
Norway and Singapore increase the already extensive cooperation in Maritime Technology and Shipping: http://sysla.no/2016/10/13/maritim/norge-styrker-det-maritime-samarbeidet-med-singapore_166263/
My two “Home Countries”
When things get tough the though gets going. Norwegian shipyard change tack to stay busy in difficult times: http://www.motorship.com/news101/ships-and-shipyards/norwegian-yards-seek-salvation-in-expedition-cruising
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/lightning-strike-kills-323-reindeer/71628/
What a massacre. Poor beasts.
[QUOTE=Emrobu;191431]What a massacre. Poor beasts.[/QUOTE]
A moose once bit my sister
mynd you, moose bites kan be pretti nasti…
Norway has the technology to capture and store CO2, but need supply to make it viable in scale: http://e24.no/makro-og-politikk/nordsjoeen/tord-lien-ber-europa-komme-med-co2-til-norge/23839327
On more good thing; CO2 will be carried on ships, which create work for Seamen. (If not autonomous, that is)
They have the same problem with producing power from garbage. The plants are ready, but garbage are in short supply: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/30/world/europe/oslo-copes-with-shortage-of-garbage-it-turns-into-energy.html
If Oslo starts to import garbage from USA, I presume you guys will DEMAND that it is carried by US flag ships?
Today’s Scandinavians seems to be a sober , well behaved lot, compared to my shipmates of 40 years ago. When I first got to Singapore in the 70s, there was daily drinking session at a beer selling counter on the Clifford Pier, patronized by a never ending group of Scandihooligan seamen from ships in the anchorage. It appeared to me to be a drinking session that had been continuing non stop for years. Only the participants changed, as ships came and went. They were a cheerful good natured lot, endlessly swapping a continuous collection of amusing seafaring tales. The same bunch sometimes used to drink in the old Ambassador hotel in Meyer Road, Katong. At one stage, there were three of them with the same name, Paul Jansen.
[QUOTE=Evanjonesinbatam;192201]Today’s Scandinavians seems to be a sober , well behaved lot, compared to my shipmates of 40 years ago. When I first got to Singapore in the 70s, there was daily drinking session at a beer selling counter on the Clifford Pier, patronized by a never ending group of Scandihooligan seamen from ships in the anchorage. It appeared to me to be a drinking session that had been continuing non stop for years. Only the participants changed, as ships came and went. They were a cheerful good natured lot, endlessly swapping a continuous collection of amusing seafaring tales. The same bunch sometimes used to drink in the old Ambassador hotel in Meyer Road, Katong. At one stage, there were three of them with the same name, Paul Jansen.[/QUOTE]
You came too late to experience Cellar Bar, across the road from Clifford Pier. That was the meeting place for just about all seafarers and expats in the Marine business and of any nationality. At least until abt. 1972, when it was demolished and replaced with Jan’s Cafe’ as our regular haunt during lunch/afternoons.
When returning from a trip at sea you would have all the happenings and gossips in a few hours after stepping down to Cellar Bar.
The little coffee shop at Clifford Pier also belonged to “Cellar Wong” and was popular with crews waiting for the bumboat back to their ships, or those who had missed the boat and had to wait for morning to get back onboard.
Yes there were some drunk Scandihooligans there, but they were not alone. It was an equal opportunity place.
I remember especially during the first “oil shock” in 1973 when “Bugis-Martin” showed up there dressed as an Arab and started to mouth off. He had to be rescued from an angry mob by a concerted effort from fellow Norwegians. (Usually the Police would rescue him and take him home when he got into trouble with is antics)
Those days are long gone, never to return.
PS> Maybe we should have an “Only in Singapore” thread here for swapping stories like these.
[QUOTE=ombugge;192205]You came too late to experience Cellar Bar, across the road from Clifford Pier. That was the meeting place for just about all seafarers and expats in the Marine business and of any nationality. At least until abt. 1972, when it was demolished and replaced with Jan’s Cafe’ as our regular haunt during lunch/afternoons.
When returning from a trip at sea you would have all the happenings and gossips in a few hours after stepping down to Cellar Bar.
The little coffee shop at Clifford Pier also belonged to “Cellar Wong” and was popular with crews waiting for the bumboat back to their ships, or those who had missed the boat and had to wait for morning to get back onboard.
Yes there were some drunk Scandihooligans there, but they were not alone. It was an equal opportunity place.
I remember especially during the first “oil shock” in 1973 when “Bugis-Martin” showed up there dressed as an Arab and started to mouth off. He had to be rescued from an angry mob by a concerted effort from fellow Norwegians. (Usually the Police would rescue him and take him home when he got into trouble with is antics)
Those days are long gone, never to return.
PS> Maybe we should have an “Only in Singapore” thread here for swapping stories like these.[/QUOTE]
The Coffee Shop. . . is that the one that became “very interesting” once the sun went down? I haven’t been to Singapore in many decades, and I believe that it was at or near the foot of the pier. . .
[QUOTE=cmakin;192230]The Coffee Shop. . . is that the one that became “very interesting” once the sun went down? I haven’t been to Singapore in many decades, and I believe that it was at or near the foot of the pier. . .[/QUOTE]
Yes that is the one. Now long gone, but Clifford Pier is still there, although no longer a landing point for seafarers.
Here is what it looked like in the mid-1970’s or so:
It is now an up-class Chinese Restaurant:
This picture is a few years old. It has been renovated and changed style since then.
The famous Clock used to hang from the rafters in the middle of the pier. It was the meeting point; “meet me under the clock” was the standard instruction.
The landing steps are still there, but now any bumboat you see is a replica, playing their trade as River Cruise boats on what is now a fresh water reservoir:
The view from Clifford Pier has also changed:
I don’t think you would recognize much if you returned today, although some of the old Singapore have been preserved, like the Fullerton Building, which housed the old General Post Office, the Marine Department and the Tax Office, among others
Here seen together with Clifford Pier back in the 70’s:
It is now the Fullerton Hotel, totally renovated but with the exterior largely preserved:
[QUOTE=cmakin;192230]The Coffee Shop. . . is that the one that became “very interesting” once the sun went down? I haven’t been to Singapore in many decades, and I believe that it was at or near the foot of the pier. . .[/QUOTE]
Reply in Singapore Port thread.
The offshore industry is down in it’s lowest cycle ever, which is felt world wide and in all branches of the industry, including ship building.
What can shipyards who have specialized themselves on building vessels for this industry do?
The answer is [B]Diversify!![/B], which is what Norwegian yards are doing: http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/vard-sees-stronger-returns-through-diversification
Somebody see a future for Vard: http://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/16003-fincantieri-oil-gas-makes-bid-for-outstanding-vard-shares.html
Probably not “only” in Norway but …
[QUOTE=KPChief;192429]Probably not “only” in Norway but …
Yes it is a shame the way Norway is treating the Asylum seekers and I feel ashamed on their behalf.
Some kids have been in Norway for years, (in some cases even born here)yet they haven’t been given the right to stay because they cannot prove their identity, or whatever other excuse the bureaucrats can find to keep them in limbo.
No they are not kept in detention centers like in Australia, some of whom will now be taken by the US:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37965528
In Norway they are living in the open reception centers and are well looked after materially, but they are not allowed to work, even as volunteers, or move from the place they have been placed. The kids get to go to school, but adults can only sit and wait for years on a decision on their asylum application.
There have been several cases like the one described here lately. The reason is that we now have a right-wing (by Norwegian standard) coalition government, with one of the partners a populist far-right party, which is anti-immigrant and to an extent anti-Muslim, although they will not admit it. (Tump is their hero)
They give the bureaucrats a “quota” of migrants and asylum seekers to deport every year, hence you get cases like this.
One boy of 17, who have been in Norway for 2-3 years and had learnt to speak fluent Norwegian, was “suspected” of being above 18 by the Case Officer. He was given a discredited “age test” and was found to be “probably above 18”. He was deported back to Kabul in Afghanistan, where he has no close family and no protection of any kind.
No I’m NOT a supporter of the Norwegian (or European) policy on refugees and asylum seekers. Those who are proven to be economical migrant should be sent back to apply work visas in the normal way, but people who have a genuine right to asylum has the right of protection under UN rules.
Both Norway and all the other European countries (as well as USA) are signatory to the 1951 UN Refugee Convention and the 1967 Protocol and has agreed to honour their obligations accordingly. It looks like both Europe and USA has forgotten the years after WWII, when it was white European refugees fleeing the aftermath of war. They agreed then that “this must NEVER happen again”.
Let us hope that it will NEVER happen to us, I.A.
What the hell is it going to take for the UN to create safe havens for Afghan, Syrian and Iraqi innocent victims displaced by these “conflicts”? It keeps getting worse. Isis is mowing down civilians in Mosul as we speak.