NTSB Preliminary Report M/V Dali

TURNS??? What turns??
Below is an example of turns on river Scheldt
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Here the “turns” seem to be less challenging
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By the way .I see some vessels moving -different sizes and drafts with speeds ranging fm 6 to 9 kts -no more.

And MSC M.VII seems to still enjoy the local hospitality despite her great success of passing fm berth to sea buoy w/o shaving the lovely bridge. Can not find pics with her drafts fore and aft from the water side on arrival berth when she returned. If all was so lovely and so prefessional and so cool why then is she still alongside. My gut feeling is that upon more or very detailed inspections at berth some pandora’s box of technical defficiencies was opened aand ISM issues and we may look at "unseaworthiness " case of magnificient proportions. But I may be wrong of course .

This time the news joints clamed up abt the crew compositions regarding nationalities. Wonder why .?
Cheers.

Because she was placed under arrest.

Have You seen the Captain of the Port order she is free to sail technicaly-wise or You heard or read abt it in the “news”. ?

“ A US court has also issued an arrest warrant against the ship.”

Listen .Thx but I have seen it long time ago and enjoyed the extra “drama” added by the title " CLOSE SHAVE" . But thank You… By the way .Has Dali been already discharged??

Is Tradewinds better for you?

https://www.tradewindsnews.com/law/court-issues-arrest-warrant-against-msc-ship-that-lost-control/2-1-1660064

Hi Spo
I was expecting you to re-post the pic of the ‘emergency stop’ button. :slight_smile:

But seriously, if they were on a slow SG that option possibly might have been used.

I did see a note that the vessel was supposed to leave on Monday before last … but the lawyers managed to get the court order for the arrest. Presumably she was cleared to leave with the control system fixed to the satisfaction of the USCG/CotP.

This one is much better .Thank You.

But apart of legal issues which were communicated 7-8 days ago i repeat my question: Has the vessel been officially released by the Captain of the Port USCG which is a standard procedure in case of technical issues.?? Vsls are put on hold by COTP USCG and when issues are rectified , then they are released and and each of this event is covered by the “ceremony” of giving ship master such a nice paper . Been there , done that.
And which news joint released such info. ?? May be You know.

This report indicates she was supposed to depart June 9.

I will as i feel there is a need to clarify the " throtle" issue as it looks there is some misunderstandings. I have just finished collecting pics of bridge control systems i used on my ships ,/different telegraphs . But this i will post under the proper thread as here it would be ( have learned a new word) threadjacking ( lovely) :wink:

By the way . :wink: >Would You be interested Sir in calculation of kinetic energy of MSC M. VII with her -let’s say 15 kts and compare it with Dali ??? :wink:

Thx .the Trade winds and Maritime executive are real nice .Thank You both Gentleman . Cheers. But would You both agree that what is contained in both articles is in sharp contrast with initial jubilation about “lucky” event and miracle on the river.

Hi Spo
I guess we got distracted by the reference to the MSC M. Coming back to my message on the ‘emergency steering’ arrangements, do you recall if any of your vessels had the ‘slow’ emergency steering gear? Thanks.

I made lot of random drills/tests of emcy stop( weather & safety , schedule & engine crew attitude :wink: permitting) as well as simulated blackouts in order to check with my own eyes , what exactly is supplied by emcy gen , what by bateries on the bridge and what lights on superstructure and on deck ( mostly to verify if it is as per description and regs and to check if such lights as a/m are properly marked with red paint as emcy lights) - i did it mostly after joining ship and after engine officers changes .

Emcy steering drills were done acc to USCG requirements/flag etc which was every 3 months. These were always announced with all officers and crew gathered in the steering gear room, revs where taken down from full sea revs 90% MCR to full meneuvering revs and even less to SAHD and before anything was touched, the emcy phone communication was established and tested with responsible engineer and then with the helmsman, who was fitted with headphone and mike. VHF com was as back up but due to noise , distance and steel obstructions , it was not always reliable.

As far as I remember, the procedure description for the engineer in the steering gear room was to switch to no.2 (port side) steering pump after bridge reported midship and on the bridge main steering stand NFU mode was activated.

The helmsman in the S.G.room opereted using red/green pushbuttons or levers repeating first commands from the bridge and confirming execution( close loop comm) . After simple commands to port/stb or whatever, course to steer was given as I always had ships with gyro repeater in the S.G. room . All including deck officers had to practice steering in this mode.

Regarding rudder movements during such experiments 28 sec was always maintained ( 1 PUMP NO.2 running) . The M/E was running then the supply i think was from Aux.d.gens .

But after your lectures here i am not sure now :wink: . I do not recall hearing emcy gen starting during such dril. Now I have a dillema , i did not know what the hell was going on during these drills -technicaly wise :wink:

Now .During blackout tests emcy gen was supplying as per technical description and as per label on emcy switch board S.G. pump no. 2 and operation and ruder movements were checked on the bridge - i did not notice to be honest any apprieciable slowing down of rudder movement from port to stb in comparison with normal operation.

Regarding other things . Navigation in pilotage, restricted waters in general ALWAYS two S.G. pums were running ( abt 14-15 secs from side to side) ,the bowthruster was always powered up in such a way that it could be used immediately or with few secs delay irrespective if pilot needed it or not especialy in areas I was not familiar with (first time navigating) according to rule, that shit happens combined and even turbo charged by Murphy’s law. Sorry but I hate the question : capt pls explain why …

Cheers

I think this arrangement with the steering gear on the EDG meeting the 15 to 15 in 30 secs is rather new and possibly with the vessel sizes increasing. The one VLCC (318K dwt/14kts) I could check has the same arrangement with 3 pumps and slow on the EDG. Being a tanker above 10,000 grt it also has the so called ‘Safematic’ system to auto isolate one of the hyd power units in case of an oil leak.
Maybe for container ships with speeds 20+ kts, dwt’s of 100k and above would be candidates for this slow speed SG arrangement.

Most likely this was to limit the size of the EDG.

Dali is underway from Baltimore.

Next port is Norfolk, presumably for an extended repair period.

The arrest in Charleston is no big deal. The P&I Club will post bond and the MSC Michigan will sail and go about its business.

I am looking for some news/explanation why Dali was not discharged. With 30 -40 moves per hr per crane and abt 4500 boxes left prior movement to berth , with 5 gantries could be quick ops. Any idea how many plugged in reefers did they have o/b. Any ideas???

The owners declared GA.

Dali is docked right behind Maersk Saltoro that is a sister vessel and looks like on the same route … Baltimore and onto Colombo.

Wonder if they plan to transfer some of the cargo to Saltoro.

They have to release cargo whose owners paid G.A. contribution and keep the rest on Dali. Normaly it would be discharged and stored under custody of G.A adjuster. But suspect the cost of shore storage was prohibitive incl restows. Big Blue has some smart people.

Meantime : what is our throttle magician MSC M. 7. doing? Sailing ? my ass