Maybe, maybe not. Depends on how honest the evaluator was. How likely do you think it is that the captain that did the firing also did at least some of the evaluating?
It’s my error to assume people here would know or even notice that it’s a timed arrival, which means it involves arriving early then having to slow down. Being late means the 2nd mate slowed down too much (or added too much distance).
But which posts here are people saying without evidence the C/M is wrong?
You have yet to make any statements finding fault with Maersk or its management i.e. this Captain or the shore based management which I’m quite certain was aware that the Captain was going to fire the Chief Mate. From what I can see and I will certainly stand corrected if I am wrong but your statements are looking for the smallest reason to find fault with the Chief Mate and not with the Captain and/or shore based management.
It should go without saying that the most basic and elementary concept in regards to safety is reporting issues or concerns. If one has to worry about losing their job and livelihood that is not conducive to a positive safety culture. Does that make sense?
If I have misinterpreted your posts/statements I will certainly stand corrected but from what I have read from you I don’t believe that is the case.
Jeff Hagopian
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I know almost nothing about Maersk or it’s management, what little I do know is a few remarks from mariners who sailed there. Never heard anything one way or the other about the safety culture.
I did post that the captain firing the C/M was a bonehead move and that it supports the C/M case that the firing was in retribution for reporting to the CG.
I think @Chief_Seadog most likely has it right, the ship suffered from a dysfunctional crew.
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OK Misunderstood which cpa you wrote them up for, I couldn’t imagine you meant that.
Ok, I’ve never called in Japan so sure, obviously it is possible. Was it a big deal? Monetary penalties? Just curious.
Yeah, totally agree. I’d be taking action if I didn’t get a call too. You didn’t mention it initially, so assumed that wasn’t an issue. That being said, upon receiving a call we were running a few minutes late would not lead me to write someone up. The company I work for does take safety seriously, and delays in particular are perfectly OK in the name of safety.
Many of the comments are quizzing the CM’s actions in a way that suggest the correct course of action was to report to the company first, ie the CM was wrong to go to the USCG first.
I will go along with that. It is up to senior officers to ensure proper cooperation between departments. The leaky flange on the fire pump could have been raised by the third mate as a defect, a work order for the bilge system and once these are raised they remain in the cloud until resolved.
The comment about the blocks on the lifeboat astounds me. The CM should have personally supervised the freeing up of this piece of equipment as a priority and to have set in place actions to prevent any reoccurrence of this defect. To claim he couldn’t do it does not reflect well on his ability as a seaman.
The defects noted in a pretty standard PM system would soon come to the attention of a marine superintendent if not rectified as soon as possible
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Why should anyone listen to you? That guy won himself 500k+. You have been ranting on a forum about noble drilling the last 5 years. How did your lawsuit end?
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I have stated truth & facts that are well documented. What individuals choose to believe or not believe is their choice.
Regarding my SPA litigation, it settled out of Court.
I’m well aware that you haven’t shut the fuck up about it the last few years. Let’s see dat big check. I get the feeling you just a whiny fucking bitch.
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Yes, but not without evidence - the OSHA letter was posted upthread.
To be fair, he disappeared for a couple years.
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Probably needed.
From the findings
The government is not making a decision on the nomination.
It is merely directing the respondent to follow up on it’s commitment to promote the guy and not fire him for being a whistle blower. Do not make promises with evaluations in writing. Keep your word.
Something companies do not nowadays do, creating this sorry state of affairs including the “I DON"T GIVE A SHIT” attitude. Just CYA.
Heres the thing though, they absolutely are and it would be a potentially dangerous precedent. It is also not a remedy listed in the SPA. It specifically allows for reinstatement to the former position:
(A) If the Secretary of Labor decides, on the basis of a complaint, a person violated subsection (a) of this section, the Secretary of Labor shall order the person to—
(ii) reinstate the complainant to the former position with the same pay and terms and privileges of employment; and…
This wouldn’t just be any old promotion in any old industry. This is a non-maritime government agency telling a private company to promote an individual to the role of Senior Officer In Command of said companies vessels at sea.
Imagine for a moment if this guy happens to be involved in a marine casualty on his first voyage as Master back with Maersk. The accident review board asks Maersk on what basis was this individual placed in command of their vessel….”Well, some Regional Administrator from OSHA’s Texas Whistleblower Office, with zero experience in the maritime industry, ordered that we promote him to Captain because a few of his former Captains gave him good evaluations three years ago.”
I don’t want to besmirch the whistleblower here, he seemingly got screwed, he’s got the papers and by all accounts his peers thought he should be promoted. Likewise the OSHA Administrator is a decorated veteran. But none of that changes the language of the statute nor does it eliminate the pandoras liability box of a government safety organization appointing a person to a position of singular legal responsibility for an oceangoing vessel, her crew, and cargo.
Meh, the private internal review “system” surely has promoted much less competent fools to position of master. In fact, every day there are plenty of complete idiot masters/chiefs sailing the seas without incident.
A common saying I enjoy: “People much dumber than us do this job everyday with satisfactory results.”
I think people are making an super banana-split ice cream sunday out of a nothingburger.
That may be disgusting, demoralizing, frustrating, and repulsive but it’s hardly incredible or difficult to comprehend. It is just normal business and exercise of power by a large corporation that has the resources to shrug off the occasional pinprick of a legal diversion.
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True, in the USA we have a legal system not a justice system. Especially when money and political power [ same thing] are involved.
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I disagree. This is an oversight agency telling an org to do what they said they were going to do. But I do understand your view point of non maritime and inexperienced OSHA worker ,the hypo scenario with an accident as well.
Moreover, nothing suggests that Maersk was in any way dissatisfied with his performance.
Maybe he was just a stickler for such stuff as a leaky firemain.
It won’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened to the whistleblower.
Next, follow the facts and statements of the Office bigwigs (a lobby in it’s own right).
A simple flow chart like the NMC uses.
A Maersk weasel would look at amending the flow chart because he is just that, a WEASEL.
For once the agency took the side of the whistle blower. Look at the facts and weed out the WEASEL talk. Once a weasel, always a weasel and if you going to weasel talk, then do not put it in writing. It runs in their blood. That is why they can’t ship handle coz bringing a ship in on your own gives you REAL HEART ACHE especially the big ones, with a single screw.
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A Maersk weasel would look at amending the flow chart because he is just that, a WEASEL.
For once the agency took the side of the whistle blower. Look at the facts and weed out the WEASEL talk. Once a weasel, always a weasel and if you going to weasel talk, then do not put it in writing. It runs in their blood. That is why they can’t ship handle coz bringing a ship in on your own gives you REAL HEART ACHE especially the big ones, with a single screw.
Weasels and flow charts? Weasel talk? 
Seasoned crew could usually spot weasels rather quickly.They complain the most early and often. Not sure this was the case in the issue being discussed here…Had fire drills every 3 wks, chief and everybody on the planet.would know if the main wasn’t working.and report.to master. Not easy or smart to hide.
That is not what was said.
“We will definitely keep you in mind for any opportunities that might come up as a Master.”
I don’t read this as a promise to promote. It is more like a promise to consider promotion.
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