Living condition on OSVs

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Well that should make for some interesting discussions once the folks on the bayou start seeing what OSVs and PSVs in Europe are like.

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There are some US -flag vessels on this list, You could try to find your vessel here:

PS> None among the highest rated, but two on the list of lowest rated. :worried:

No matter how bad these maritime Yelp reviews get for the OSV’s, as long as the site doesn’t translate over to Tagalog or Hindi the boat operators will always have people to crew them. And even if they do translate over, as long as they pay more than a rickshaw puller they’ll still get the crew.

Those cousin f******s don’t care. As long as the gumbo is hot they keep comin!

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That is funny but true. :rofl:

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Sailed on both the Bayou version and European. The former had hardwired ear phones hanging from the deck head so you could hear the TV. If you slept under a bridge you would regard it as luxury.
Built in Norway there was no machinery noise, heated bathroom tiles, changing rooms for dirty gear, ergonomically designed controls and good vis from the bridge. I did I mention the AC?

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You mean to say that Filipinos and Indians are ignorant of how bad conditions are on US-flag OSVs because the don’t understand English?

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What the heck are you talking about with “US-flag OSVs”? Is that what this thread & that OSV’s comfort level ranking site is supposed to be about? Trashing US flagged OSV’s?? All this time I thought you were a seasoned international maritime professional & you want to pretend US flagged vessels are the worse?? Have you ever visited a Mexican flag ship? An Angolian flagged OSV? I can name really bad flags all day long. I’ve sailed on a nearly freaking brand new Chinese built OSV & I’m sure some Chinese prisoners had it better than what I experienced. About my Tagalog & Hindi reference, what I was saying is, no matter how bad we think OSV living might be, it’s still better than watching your family starve & doing without. Poor people will always get the job done if they are desperate enough.

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Well your first though is correct.

In case you want to compare CVs:
I worked in maritime related fields from 1959 until retirement in 2016.
Since 1974 mainly in the offshore oil & gas field in various positions.

My first involvement with US-flag OSVs were in 1970, as “Navigator” for a Bayou company operating in S.E.Asia.

Since then I have been dealing with lots of US built/US-flagged boat, rigs, construction barges and ships. (Not so many after 1990s, though)
Mainly as Rig mover, MWS, Marine Adviser and in various management positions in many parts of the world.

I have also been dealing with foreign built, flagged and manned OSVs etc. (incl. Chinese owned, built and manned) so I’m able to compare.

PS> My post #8 was as much a comment in refr. to jbtam99, ItsJody and tengineer1 as to you. (Tongue-in-cheek)

BTW: The rating of vessels are not only about where they were built and are flagged, but as much about the living and working condition, cleanliness, food and access to wifi/internet etc.

I know you go back to the old Halter Marine and UT 704s, but also have experience from newer version of OSVs of various design/built. :+1:

for them its pay not conditions.
I know one well known operator in Asia, (nice boats) ( that we all know) they got HR to work out how much to keep a family alive in their home country and that was the pay

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It has been the same for me more times than I like to admit. I’ve stayed in uncomfortable places/operations longer than I should have because of the higher pay but I’ve also taken pay cuts because I wanted to work certain vessels or locations. To each their own. As with most review services, the more reviews from different people the better to hopefully delute out the maritime Karens & lazy p.o.s with axes to grind. I hope that OSV review sites gets a lot of feedback on vessels covered.

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More on the subject in Splash 24/7 today:

Apparently not all Shipmanagement companies are against this idea:

As you know there are shortage of qualified seafarers in the traditional countries that supply officers and crew for the world’s fleet of ships, incl. OSVs. (Philippines & India)

Maybe you could “name and shame” that company?
Maybe that way they will have problem finding crew for the (nice) boats.

DO YOUR PART FOR YOUR FELLOW SEAFARERS OF THE WORLD!!!

I hope the Captains are allowed to reply to the crews comfortability reviews, the same how hotel managers can reply to guests reviews on other sites.

“Thank you assistant engineer for your positive review & staying with us. We hope you visit again. It’s reviews like yours that compelled me to into the maritime trade. Sincerely, Capt So-&-So”

or

“Dear AB, we’re sorry your time on the M/V Seasick didn’t meet your expectations. My staff & I work very hard to make everyone stay enjoyable & we promise to do better next time. Chief Mate Cares.a.lot”

By allowing the Captains to reply, it will really show how much they care about all of our opinions & comfort on board.

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the 3rd world keeps supplying people whose life is so bad they will work for food and shelter, any money is a bonus.
Malaysia filling up with paki’s and iranians working under poor conditions on the land as they are illegals. Seemed to have pushed the illegal Indo’s out of a job.

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Made a few back-to-back runs up the Karnaphuli years ago, docking downtown Chittagong. We acquired a regular helper in the galley named Onil, who wanted only rice, milk, and sugar for his labors. He also procured jungle juice for us, a dangerous game for all involved. In the end, we forced him to accept a good chunk of taka.

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“I sincerely apologize if the Excessive Masturbation Cleaning Fee was not clearly communicated at the time of your booking.

I’ve also used your persistently clogged vac-toilet as a teaching moment with our team.

Please accept our offer of a complimentary O’Doul’s upon your next visit.”

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Last I checked there were seafarers from “3rd world countries” holding down jobs as Master, Cheng etc., holding licences per STCW and paid a decent salary.
Many of them working for the same reputable Ship owning/Shipmanagement companies for years and not having any more issues or accidents than seafarers from so called “first world countries”.

The problem is rather that even those seafarers are getting older and the recruitment of young people to replace them is difficult:

Here is what the world’s largest Shipmanagement company Anglo-Eastern is do about it:

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Blue water is a bit different than offshore as not going to western countries where they might get inspected.

Gom fleet when does that go international?
In asia
Thai fleet stays in thailand
Malaysian Fleet stays in Malaysia
Indo fleet stays in Indo

There are 3 anchored in Singapore and thats it. Would be lucky to have one come and go each month.

Saying that the Dutch crewed owned dredge that t boned an oil tanker in Singapore was run so poorly bridge and eng crew were charged.