And the El Faro, from the transcripts at least. Big time deck and eng stove piping.
To my way of thinking ops are divided into planning and execution. For non-routine operations in the planning stage there is no deck/eng, For non-routine (ie storm avoidance) ops planning I do my planning where the chief can see it. The chief and I don’t always have the same approach (unlike the mates) so he often can find holes in my plans and vice versa.
*assuming he not a prick as you mention, plenty around.