[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;127381]I refuse to supply political grist for your mill. All threads must stay on topic or the GCaptain machine will break down.[/QUOTE]
I’m not trying to antagonize you, I’m genuinely curious about what you thought and wanted you to expand on your previously stated opinions, but if you don’t want to then that’s fine, all you had to do was say so.
I know what I think. I began this thread to find out what other Mariners think.
By the way, I’m thinking of a Marine version of the FAA except it would be mandated to be administered by experienced Captains, Chief Engineers, and Maritime Officers, with educations and actual sea service, (real time at sea)
I have details in mind but would rather hear the thoughts, ideas, and opinions of other Mariners.
[QUOTE=“EbbTide;127377”]You need a good acronym name for your new agency… something like DUMB Don’t Understand Mariners But…
One of you should be able to come up with something… This begs for your brilliance.[/QUOTE]
They already have one, Uncle Sam’s Confused Group. It goes for pretty much the entire bureaucracy…
[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;127318]Certain pilots have been under that rule for a long time.
I do think 65 is a fair age. It’s ridiculous to have to reorganize the personnel of an emergency gear locker team because someone’s duties as per the station bill are beyond his or her capabilities. And yet it happens a lot
Every person on ship, osv, tug, etc. Needs to be able to put on an SCBA and be lead hoseman if necessary.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I understand that- but wouldn’t that fall under improved physical standards and not an arbitrary age limit? I work right now with guys and gals far younger than I am who have knee and back problems, often from obesity. I’ve worked with a few who could not fit through a scuttle or manage a steep ladder because of weight issues. An arbitrary age limit throws the baby out with the bathwater.
[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;127382]I’m not trying to antagonize you, I’m genuinely curious about what you thought and wanted you to expand on your previously stated opinions, but if you don’t want to then that’s fine, all you had to do was say so.[/QUOTE]
Paddy wagon, just joking.
just trying to concentrate on bowl games at this point.
beauty of this forum is good information shared, good information coaxed out, and then getting way the hell off topic.
[QUOTE=ClutchCargo;127389]I know what I think. I began this thread to find out what other Mariners think.
By the way, I’m thinking of a Marine version of the FAA except it would be mandated to be administered by experienced Captains, Chief Engineers, and Maritime Officers, with educations and actual sea service, (real time at sea)
I have details in mind but would rather hear the thoughts, ideas, and opinions of other Mariners.[/QUOTE]
See my previous post as far as what the top level MARAD people should have for background.
we are on the same page.
[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;127398]Paddy wagon, just joking.
just trying to concentrate on bowl games at this point.
beauty of this forum is good information shared, good information coaxed out, and then getting way the hell off topic.
See my previous post as far as what the top level MARAD people should have for background.
we are on the same page.[/QUOTE]
I was watching the Winter Classic when the other half came in and just put on the Twilight Zone marathon. He’s not a hockey fan.
[QUOTE=catherder;127394]Oh, I understand that- but wouldn’t that fall under improved physical standards and not an arbitrary age limit? I work right now with guys and gals far younger than I am who have knee and back problems, often from obesity. I’ve worked with a few who could not fit through a scuttle or manage a steep ladder because of weight issues. An arbitrary age limit throws the baby out with the bathwater.[/QUOTE]
Of course I agree with even stricter standards on physicals. Goes without saying, but it took the USCG a long, long time for this last revision.
Gotta start somewhere.
[QUOTE=Johnny Canal;127378]Tug sailor,
I agree with you to some extent, but just look at your previous post about American society. We are definitely not the men and women of the 1950s. More drugs to keep functioning, much higher percentage of diabetics and obese.[/QUOTE]
Some of us still are the men of the 50’s.
I prescribe a good old fashioned folk remedy for the maladies described; its called WORK. The last thing we need to do is create any more arbitrary and unnecessary barriers to keep people from working. Humans were not genetically designed to be retired for 30 or 40 years. They were designed to struggle for survival until they drop. At least get out of the way and let those who want to keep struggling do it, and then let nature take its course.
I’m not going to get into a healthcare debate today.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;127405]
I’m not going to get into a healthcare debate today.[/QUOTE]
why not?
are you still having trouble enrolling for Obamacare online?
can we not do a healthcare debate again!
As for medical standards, it should be by ability. Maybe people over a certain age should have their ability scrutinised more often though.
Why dont you outsource the job to any other Flag state?
I would bet that all the maritime nations in the worlds documentation added together would need a smaller bookshelf than that bloated USCG crap
You would be so far in front you wouldnt know yourself
Wonder why so many people think the solution to a bad government agency is another government agency that will somehow be better?
And, in the process of changing over, do you not think politicians will put in laws that make the industry more profitable to the corporations at the expense of the mariner? I guarantee you that will happen. Look at the ACA, as a prime example. They can claim all they’d like whatever they are doing is for our benefit, but it never, ever will be. It will always benefit the politicians and those that put money in their pockets.
We’re much better off with the Devil we know. Any talk of getting rid of the CG should be to replace it with a private civilian agency if anything. Look at fields such as speech and language. ASHA does an alright job, and it is not a government agency. Same can be said for Engineering Accreditation societies. Government can say, you need to be accredited by one of x societies, and that is the extent of government involvement.