It’s why I included a breakdown of how many MSC 3M and 3/AE are getting that pay. If he has a brain he can figure out that that about 96.4% of MSC 3M and 3/AE are making less then $200k a year.
It should be pointed out that most MSC 2M and chief mates are also making less then $200k a year. Those particular 3M and 3/AE billets are a severe aberration from the norm.
With an unlimited ton 3rd mate license, what is the job with the highest salary that someone can obtain within 5 years of graduation?
His question is like asking ‘How much will I win if I play Powerball?’ The real answer is zero but people are asking is what the jackpot value is this week.
If he had asked what he could reasonably expect to be earning five years after graduation my answer would have been different.
[QUOTE=DeckApe;173335]Heh. No, it’s done on a regular basis.
Figure the East Coast AKEs don’t get underway much while stateside. They suck as duty oilers - small cargo tanks, single probes, not very fuel efficient. They do get underway once in a while for something or other which resets the night diff clock. Loose a few more days to VRs longer then a month. That gets +300 days of night diff which is well over $200k a year for a 3M-w or 3/AE-w.
The question from the OP was what’s the highest possible pay. For a 3M or 3/AE that’s the highest I’ve seen. I suspect a tug, salvage or JHSV could meet or exceed that once in a blue moon but not consistently.
In MSC there’s what, fifty-five ships? I’m counting only CIVMAR hulls, not contract hulls. On each ship there’s generally two to four 3M. Let’s say an average of three. So let’s say there’s 165 3M billets.
I’ll concede that one of the three East Coast AKEs may be on a deployment at a time. So that leaves six 3M billets in the $200k window.
Six billets of 165 billets is 3.6%. So it’s the very lucky 3M (or 3AE) who gets one. Getting on one of those takes lots of luck or lots of strings to pull. Turnover on those billets is exceptionally rare.
I spent six years on East Coast AKEs so I do know how it works.[/QUOTE]
Sign me up then.
But then again, I’m kinda liking 37.5k a month right where I’m at…
My wife, her boyfriend and everyone else is liking it too.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;173380]Wow. I had no idea that I am so ridiculously underpaid here in the Jones Act private sector.[/QUOTE]
If it is any consolation the Norwegians working on OSV/CSV in the North Sea has to work 5 weeks on/5 weeks off due to the hard times. This is from the 28/28 schedule they have been working until now.
(On the Rigs and Platforms they work a 2 on/4 off schedule, which is ridiculous, in my opinion)
The ones working further a-field, like in GoM, Brasil, West Africa and S.E.Asia is even “harder hit”.
They have to go from 5/5 week to 6/6 week schedules.
Of cause they keep their full pay for the full time, whether on or off, but the Owners save on travel expenses.
Was this forced down their trout?? No it was agreed in negotiation in direct consultation between the crews and Owners in individual companies and agreed to by the Unions.
Is this better then to loose your job outright?? You bet it is.