GAO says U.S. would need 100 LNG ships if proposed law enacted

yes, yes, yes, yes and YES! but then the bastards say that the gas could not be competitive with gas from other nations because the US ships would cost more. I ask…WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT?

[B]U.S. Needs 100 LNG Ships, 30 Years[/B]

By MarEx 2015-12-07

The U.S. is expected to change from a net importer of natural gas to a net exporter, with those exports destined for different regions of the world, especially Asia. It’s a development that could see the nation building 100 new ships, a prospect that the Government Accountability Office says could take 30 years.

Five large-scale U.S. liquefaction facilities, necessary for conversion of natural gas to LNG, are under construction with a projected capacity to export more than 12 percent of U.S. natural gas production in 2020. According to representatives from these five facilities, their liquefaction capacity has already been sold mainly through 20-year contracts and their customers are responsible for transporting the LNG to export markets.

Based on estimates from these liquefaction facilities, transport of the full capacity of these liquefaction facilities will require about 100 or more LNG carriers.

Currently operating LNG carriers are nearly all foreign built and operated. LNG carriers have not been built in the United States since before 1980, and no LNG carriers are currently registered under the U.S. flag.

The proposed requirement to transport exports of LNG via U.S.-built-and-flagged carriers currently under consideration by Congress could expand employment for U.S. mariners and shipbuilders if it does not reduce the expected demand for U.S. LNG. According to representatives of U.S. mariner groups, between 4,000 and 5,200 mariners would be needed to operate the estimated 100 LNG carriers needed to transport the five U.S. facilities’ full capacity of LNG once the five are fully operational.

Based on the current capacity of U.S. shipyards, building 100 carriers would likely take over 30 years, with employment in U.S. shipyards increasing somewhat or becoming more stable, according to shipyard representatives.

Department of Defense officials have indicated that any policy or requirement that increases and stabilizes jobs in the U.S. maritime industry could support military readiness. However, according to industry representatives, U.S. carriers would cost about two to three times as much as similar carriers built in Korean shipyards and would be more expensive to operate.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) has released an analysis indicating that these costs would increase the cost of transporting LNG from the United States, decrease the competitiveness of U.S. LNG in the world market, and may, in turn, reduce demand for U.S. LNG.

Additionally, limited availability of U.S. carriers in the early years of construction may decrease the amount of LNG that could be exported from the United States for a period of time, leading customers to seek alternate sources. Further, a reduction in the level of expected U.S. LNG exports could impact the broader U.S. economy, including potential job and profit losses in the oil and gas sector.

More than 30 companies have received approval for large-scale exports of U.S. LNG beginning in 2015 or 2016 via LNG carriers.

Congress is considering whether to propose legislative language that would require U.S. LNG be exported via U.S.-built-and-flagged carriers with the goal of supporting U.S. shipbuilders and mariners.

The GAO report is available here.

[QUOTE=c.captain;174898]yes, yes, yes, yes and YES! but then the bastards say that the gas could not be competitive with gas from other nations because the US ships would cost more. I ask…WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT?[/QUOTE]

Who is currently considering that language? Who do we write to express our support?

[QUOTE=lm1883;174920]100 ships? I wouldn’t hold my breath. We will be lucky if we see 4 or 5. Everything I’ve been reading is that U.S. Export of LNG will have pretty stiff international competition and a lot of these 20 contracts are non-binding commitments.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention the 3x normal crewing cost, and 3x build cost for US vessels, but only if the two yards able to suit a competitive LNGC are certified to build for membrane systems.

If we see 4 or 5, it will the existing old US builds currently operating under foreign flag and then only cause Congress let them into US registry (already done for a few) and grant them a subsidy so the unions keep paying re-election funds.

[QUOTE=Jamesbrown;174921]Not to mention the 3x normal crewing cost… [/QUOTE]

Please define “normal crewing cost” in the context of flag of convenience, tax evasion, quasi slave labor.

As they have said the cost to let foreigners run coastwise won’t result in a huge savings especially when loss of economic activity from Mariners/shipyards is factored in.

[QUOTE=z-drive;174967]As they have said the cost to let foreigners run coastwise won’t result in a huge savings especially when loss of economic activity from Mariners/shipyards is factored in.[/QUOTE]

as far as I can tell none of what is being proposed or discussed is with regards to coastwise transport of LNG but foreign sales. I would certainly hope that at least a portion of the US exports would be reserved for at US flagged if not US built carriers but we all know that this is going to be politicized and the powers of money will have a louder voice than the powers of labor. Why would we expect any different however I do know that Duncan Hunter and John Garamendi do want for the US industry to get some share of the trade which is only right and just.

I do not like how the GAO made such a big deal of saying that US produced LNG would not be competitive with foreign produced gas if US ships were to be used. It might cost a small percentage more but when you are talking about as much gas as is being discussed the extra costs get diluted down to only a few pennies per MMBTU. Besides, with the complexity and certification required for the crew to operate an a LNG carrier, I cannot see now even a foreign manned one would be that much less than a US crew. My friend Phil O’Connell who posts here is an LNG mariner who would certainly know the correct numbers to put forth and I hope he comes in on this discussion.

as a side note to z-drive: while I love the qualititties of your avatar but enough is enough…they are seriously distracting me.

[QUOTE="c. as a side note to z-drive: while I love the qualititties of your avatar but enough is enough…they are seriously distracting me.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like more of a challenge than a threat!

[QUOTE=z-drive;174975]Sounds like more of a challenge than a threat![/QUOTE]

can you imagine the immense power contained within breasts like that and to be the one to wield such a tremendous force over men? Life must really suck for a young woman who is lacking in the brassiere department…maybe that is the root of all cajaya’s misery?

human mammaries are most fascinating to contemplate!