[QUOTE=ExCompanyMan;40039]
Think the investigation should focus a bit more on BP’s office team …[/QUOTE]
You got it.
The way they cycled their Company Men thru’ 1 week of nights followed by 1 week of days is crazy. Company men will not take much interest/ownership for that one week they are on days.
In reality it means that every week they have a different “senior” man calling the shots. Over a month they will have 4 people.
[QUOTE=ExCompanyMan;40040]Pill is usually pumped to be left on bottom or pump into the loss zone; spacer is used to isolate different fluids (i.e. cement and mud or mud and cement) to prevent contamination. Issue yesterday was that a Lost Circulation Material Pill was used a spacer in the riser.[/QUOTE]
Potentially a bigger issue than we previously realised since the 450+ bbls they pumped was a combination of 2 different recipes and the effect of mixing the 2 together was unknown.
[QUOTE=Alf;40037]Vidrine wasn’t alone, someone from bp was also working nights… Kaluza?
They (bp) seem to have been using an odd shift pattern… 4 guys, each doing 2 weeks on the rig and each of them working 1 week on nights followed by 1 week on days.
Am I interpreting correctly here? anybody else picked up on this strange scenario/work cycle?[/QUOTE]
You’re right that Mr. Kaluza was there. Sepulvado testified he handed off the rig to him the morning he left. I think it was the slant of the testimony that made me use the word alone.
ExCompanyMan - John Guide on the 22nd should be interesting.
[QUOTE=BLISTERS;39984]I know this for sure but I am not sure of the scenario I presented. I will be meeting with some well control experts this week. I will ask them exactly what such a tolerance is, if any, for pressure exerted from the top in a situation like the one I described and get back. I am not sure either about the inflow test but based on my own inference but I suspect it was a BP buy one get one free technique…ie: displace OBM with sea water whilst using the differential created to conduct an inflow test. To me riser margins must always be reckoned with even when doing a negative flow test, no matter how deep or shallow the water is.[/QUOTE]
Ronald … (Company Man who left rig after running casing) just talked on C-Span about how he would do the inflow test. Said he would use upper or lower Annular and sometimes even Rams. So Rams seem to be used sometimes. Also mentioned there should have been zero DP pressure. Depth of bit when they did this inflow test was far from ideal …
[QUOTE=ExCompanyMan;40039]Seemed like Ronald does not have much knowledge/interest in BOP testing and the Accumulator. Just was interested in seeing good test charts…
He was also not too interested in the engineering of the well; left it up to Houston and just followed their advice.
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He sounds like another “Donald” with no/minimal offshore/deepwater experience?
[QUOTE=Alf;40042]Potentially a bigger issue than we previously realised since the 450+ bbls they pumped was a combination of 2 different recipes and the effect of mixing the 2 together was unknown.[/QUOTE]
I did hear mention that one of the pills needed another component that may not have been added (a two step prodecure?)
[QUOTE=27182;40046]I did hear mention that one of the pills needed another component that may not have been added (a two step prodecure?)[/QUOTE]
I’d like to comment, but I can’t as i haven’t heard the testimonies fully. Only snippets.
[QUOTE=unoalum;40043]You’re right that Mr. Kaluza was there. Sepulvado testified he handed off the rig to him the morning he left. I think it was the slant of the testimony that made me use the word alone.
ExCompanyMan - John Guide on the 22nd should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
I’m no medical doctor, but I get the feeling that Mr. Guide may be coming down with the flu as we speak.
[QUOTE=27182;40046]I did hear mention that one of the pills needed another component that may not have been added (a two step prodecure?)[/QUOTE]
Correct; one needed an accelerator that was not used; however Alf has a point that they did not have an idea what would happen if these pills are mixed. Also, sometimes other stuff is dumped into an LCM pill. Key issue: never get a LCM pill into the Choke manifold!!! Seems they did get part of it there.
[QUOTE=Alf;40047]I’d like to comment, but I can’t as i haven’t heard the testimonies fully. Only snippets.[/QUOTE]
I wish I would have caught it fully but I got the impression that one of the pills needed to be pumped into place and then a second component would be introduce causing it to “set”. I hope someone was paying better attention than me. So take it as something that was overheard while the infant was expressing some displeasure with his newly acquired tooth.
edit: That’s not exactly correct. See the link in post 40054 regarding Forma Set mud.
[QUOTE=unoalum;40043]You’re right that Mr. Kaluza was there. Sepulvado testified he handed off the rig to him the morning he left. I think it was the slant of the testimony that made me use the word alone.
ExCompanyMan - John Guide on the 22nd should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
OK, I haven’t heard the testimonies, so only have you guys right now for input… but what you say echoes my post (and concerns) about how bp cycled 4x Company Men thru’ the day time position ie 1 per week.
The more I hear the more I’m amazed.
As for Mr Guide… I will be surprised if he does turn up.
[QUOTE=Alf;40045]He sounds like another “Donald” with no/minimal offshore/deepwater experience?[/QUOTE]
He is now on one of the rigs drilling the relief well! All in all seems like a typical (older - forever) Company Man who does his 2 weeks and then switches off during time off.
For those who only hear snippets: not sure about my connection but it is real smooth: like watching TV.
[QUOTE=27182;40046]I did hear mention that one of the pills needed another component that may not have been added (a two step prodecure?)[/QUOTE]
I think it was the Forma-set (sp?). He said it needed a liquid component before it would harden. There was some talk yesterday that after the first explosion, they found what they described as “snot” on the rig deck. And that it might have been this LCM combination.
[QUOTE=alvis;40053]I think it was the Forma-set (sp?). He said it needed a liquid component before it would harden. There was some talk yesterday that after the first explosion, they found what they described as “snot” on the rig deck. And that it might have been this LCM.[/QUOTE]
This may be an information sheet on FORM-A-SET. It’s listed in the PDF as FORM-A-SET AKX.
[QUOTE=alvis;40053]I think it was the Forma-set (sp?). He said it needed a liquid component before it would harden. There was some talk yesterday that after the first explosion, they found what they described as “snot” on the rig deck. And that it might have been this LCM.[/QUOTE]
I’m sure it was snot or LCM.
bp have already stated that the rig underdisplaced the (snot and) seawater prior to the integrity tests.
Quite likely they also underdisplaced ?again? thereafter when clearing out the riser to seawater.
When they eventually shut down for the sheen test all the above factors would mean that there was still LCM in the riser.
You guys reckon she has a boy friend ?
[QUOTE=ExCompanyMan;40052]He is now on one of the rigs drilling the relief well! All in all seems like a typical (older - forever) Company Man who does his 2 weeks and then switches off during time off.
For those who only hear snippets: not sure about my connection but it is real smooth: like watching TV.[/QUOTE]
You’re right.
That’s the worst part of joining dots from snippets of info… you sometimes join them up the wrong way.
[QUOTE=ExCompanyMan;40049]Key issue: never get a LCM pill into the Choke manifold!!! Seems they did get part of it there.[/QUOTE]
Right, can we get a little explanation why it is bad to get an LCM pill in the Choke manifold? Is it sufficient to say that it gums up the works, rendering the Choke inoperable? What are the consequences of an inoperable Choke?
[QUOTE=AHTF;40026]I like your latest sermon
The culture in AMOCO and ARCO has taken an insurmountable time to change. Remember, we’re dealing with people who think they’re GOD. The GOM is infested with these creatures, and all Operators have them. Why? You tell me!
you are full of shxte sonny boy
if operaters are infested by creatures then so is everyone else. so are contracters. Are you a contracter alcooor? What job do you do?
yes I know that you are one of them puffed up saftey boys that strut around like the third reich in clean suites and shiny hats and boots. oh dear me did mommy never show you how to get your little handies dirty?[/QUOTE]
This is the very attitude I’m referring to.
[QUOTE=kearns;40034]People, methane is clearly a liquid at these pressures with the cap blocked in, with a density of about 3.5 lb/gal. The convection due to density differences will not be significant relative to the density of oil. The WH will definitely cool when it is static. There will be no gas bubbles, as was previously suggested.[/QUOTE]
Unless the temperature of that well is somewhere below -83*C, the methane is certainly not liquid. It may well be absorbed in the oil but it is not liquid. And despite Mr. Blister’s view of physics, no gas bubble is going to rise 12000 some odd feet in a column and maintain the same pressure it had at the bottom. Any gas that came out of solution in that column when the well was open to sea pressure is probably still a gas and will remain so until it is reabsorbed which may take some considerable time so it is likely the upper X many feet of that bore is filled with gas. And gas is a bad conductor of heat so the BOP will not get hotter through conduction or convection from the reservoir some 2 miles beneath it.