COVID-19 effects on Mariners; Training, Paperwork, etc

Seafarers signing on\off ships in ports around the world are also affected by Covid-19 restrictions imposed by various authorities and countries:

Would like to update regarding Radar renewal. Because my son hadn’t sailed in the last few years because of a health issue, Radar was needed. Had he been able to sail regularly, would not be required. He is at the school I mentioned beforehand getting lifeboat and other STCW refreshers to qualify for license renewal. Navy Reserves SSO is paying him a daily rate of pay for his rating to attend the classes, but aren’t paying for the the class itself…The school is still open as of today. Hope this clears up some questions. Agree with Mr Cavo, DO NOT LET YOUR LICENSE EXPIRE.

You can also let radar observer expire if you do not need it and restore it at any time in the future by taking a radar class. Also, until 2024 you can be qualified as a radar observer without having the endorsement in your MMC provided you carry the course certificate, so if you renew without radar now, you will not need to re-apply (until 2024) to add the endorsement to your MMC. See 46 CFR 15.815(d).

Mr Cavo, Thanks for your more than welcome responses to the mariners on this site. Navy told him to get it, necessary or not, he wasn’t taking any chances. Renewal is the key, whether he sails again or not.

I thought we didn’t need to renew radar anymore ?

No. It still has to be renewed. Either with one year of sea time in the past five using radar, or with a course. See 46 CFR 11.480 and here. Also, you would be well advised to specifically request it on your application when you renew, and check that the endorsement is on your new MMC when the renewal is issued.

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Thank you, yes it is my understanding that I still have to renew it since I work shoreside.

I was taking my FF renewal classes through SUNY PET department, since I live in the area. I was able to successfully reschedule them all in May so we will see how it works out.

Looks like today MITAGS announced they will be suspending all training at both East and West Coast locations until atleast April 24th.

Quote from the email: “We will be in contact when we have plans to enable you to take on-line courses or portions of courses.”

Im curious as to which classes they can make into on-line courses. Should be interesting.

Maybe it’s time for the CG to follow the lead of many state medical licensing boards and provide relief from expiration and renewal requirements as well as remove some cross jurisdictional licensing barriers.

OMSA has sent a letter to the CG with regards to licensing, as well as vessel documentation / inspections.

Specifically, we request:

  1. All vessel Certificates of Inspection (COI) set to expire in the next 60 days and requiring a USCG or third party inspection should be extended through May 17, 2020. A proactive extension of COIs will provide for the safety of USCG personnel and mariners by preventing their exposure to outside persons during the height of the outbreak.
  2. The USCG should utilize its authority under 46 U.S.C. 7507 and 46 U.S.C. 7508 to extend national endorsements and medical certificates set to expire in the next 60 days which require an in-person course, exam, or medical office visit through May 17, 2020.
  3. Extensions similar to the extensions described in request two should be made for all similarly situated Standards of Training, Certification, and Watchkeeping (STCW) credentials.
  4. Related, any Approval to Test (ATT) or Additional Information (AI) letter deadlines should be extended if these instruments direct the individual to participate in in-person classes, exams, or medical evaluations.

OMSA letter

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The Covid-9 situation is affecting STCW certification, training and endorsement worldwide:

Well I had my Radar, my BST, and my Advanced FF renewal classes canceled

Radar?

Extensions now in effect.

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ICS and ITF ask UN to urgently facilitate crew change:

It’s been exactly a year since the last post on this topic. Now with the end of pandemic mast-up on the horizon, I’m thinking about what the cost of dealing with it on a per-company basis has been. That’s not to downplay 600k dead, or all the unemployment, closed businesses, all the people stuck at home, all the kids’ lost school time, etc.

Early on, we thought at my company that we might need to quarantine people in trailers/hotels before they sailed, etc. We always found workarounds for that. Other than a few hotel stays, we never needed additional lodging.

C19 testing was paid for by federal/state/local taxes, for the most part. A real cost, but not immediate.

All the PPE came to several $1000, but as a line item in the financials, it’s not an impressive sum. We did accrue additional stevedoring charges in Dutch Harbor to distribute cargo. But all of that was offset by savings in crew transportation. It’s usually routine to fly people Seattle/Alaska to exchange crews. Expensive. All of that stopped a year ago. No hotel rooms needed either, for the inevitable Alaskan flight delays.

We have people here making health screening calls pre-sailing, taking temps of crewmembers, yadda, yadda yadda, but they would be filling a chair anyway.

Call it a wash, in terms of line-item costs. Of course, knock on wood, we never had a shipboard case of C19. That would have been very costly, even if no real medical bills had been incurred. (Knocking on wood again…)

Our crewmembers have had to quarantine at home before sailing, but much of America has been quarantining anyway. Our crews simply did what most people were doing.

The real costs will be future taxes, which will be felt society-wide, not just to the company.

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What is the current status on USCG MMC, Medical card, etc Covid extension s?

Approval to text extension was re-extended to 10/31/21

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It sounds like your company handled this fairly well, all things considered. With a career move I just avoided the crew-change quarantines. But if I had to guess I’d assume there is a non-negligible emotional cost that should be on your real cost list. Increased time away from families due to quarantine requirements on both ends of a rotation are likely taxing people’s tolerance for career longevity. I was already making moves due to unbalanced work rotations right before all this, I can easily imagine being infinitely more fed up now!

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