HAH! I would like to say it was luck…But if you are her, it would be my bad luck !!..
[QUOTE=Shellback;9830]HAH! I would like to say it was luck…But if you are her, it would be my bad luck !!..[/QUOTE]
HOW YA BEEN OLD LOVER…bad thing is I won the lotto 8 months after divorce…but had to split it amongst 23 other people with same power ball sequence.
bad luck for me…even worse for you ! 
lol
[QUOTE=Cheng;9806]I deduce that Mr. Oliveoil is affiliated with the insurance sector of our fine industry. IF? I correctly ascertained this: I would like to add that the insurance companies are a tad bit more a thorn in my side than the pilot association.
Until he tells, to me… he shall remain an insurance writing - screwing the common man for anything he can slip by in his “small print” borderline ethical, semi-legal bullshit
WOW, it looks like I have an agenda[/QUOTE]
You can deduce my Ass…as you have no agenda.
…you should probably quote me because I never thought I’d be the one to say this but dearest Olive…
your posts have become disconnected and frankly now are a bit looney tunes!
I really cannot emphasize more strongly that you stop going down the path you are and turn it down about 50 notches or so… Then come back and when you do, stick to facts and stop quoting yourself in each of your posts (that is really annoying…sorry)
No I’m not insulting members here!
[quote=oliveoil;9831]HOW YA BEEN OLD LOVER…bad thing is I won the lotto 8 months after divorce…but had to split it amongst 23 other people with same power ball sequence.
bad luck for me…even worse for you ! lol[/quote]
My dear material girl , I see that some things never change…If I told you once, I told you a thousand times, that money doesn’t buy happiness…
You broke my heart ,when you left on that last hitch…But I think that if you really want to try again, I’ll give in ,just this one time…I think a 90’schooner ,as a peace offering, would be a step in the right direction…:):):)
PELOSI??? make me puke, she was talking about herself and her cohorts when she said that.
I have to agree cajuntugster…wasn’t Pelosi a big supporter of the SF Bar Pilots publically sanctioned private monopoly before Cota’s little episode and only tried to distance herself from that position after it became political poison KoolAid to take their side?
I still say however that the time has come for these “Associations” to be disempowered by turning over all functions of admin and oversight to public bodies. Let these associations remain alive but cut their testicles off and leave them impotent to keeping their little secret societies going. Complete and total transparency must be the new mantra when it comes to State controlled pilotage. Withold Federal development money from Ports who refuse to let in the light of day.
[quote=oliveoil;9776]A “GIVEN” PEOPLE: OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOW FULLY AWARE OF WHAT NOT TO EVER PUT PAST PILOT ASSOCIATIONS LEADERSHIP IN THE US OF A:
Published Drugs obtained by Petaluma pilot John Cota in the 60 days before the Nov. 7, 2007 Cosco Busan crash:
[B]200[/B] tablets of hydrocodone and acetaminophen, a painkiller, sold as Vicodin.
[B]190 [/B]tablets of propoxyphene, a painkiller, sold as Darvon
[B]120[/B] tablets of diazepam, a painkiller, sold as Valium
[B]50 [/B]tablets of pentazocine and naloxone, a painkiller, sold as Talwin
[B]27[/B] tablets of sumatriptan, which treat migraine headaches, sold as Imitrex
[B]180[/B] tablets of lorazepam, which treat anxiety, sold as Ativan
[B]90[/B] tablets of modafinil, which improves wakefulness in patients with sleep disorders, sold as Provigil
[B]90[/B] tablets of sertraline, an antidepressant, sold as Zoloft
[B]100 [/B]tablets of diphenoxylate and atropine, which treat gastrointestinal problems, sold under many names
[B]50[/B] tablets of prochlorperazine, which treat nausea, vomiting, schizophrenia and anxiety, sold as Compazine[/quote]
Thank you for the shopping list of drugs John Cota had within 60 days of the allision. How many of these drugs come up on the NIDA5? Don’t think that many.
Wondering how many other Pilots take some of these drugs? Would tend to explain some interesting behavior experienced.
Imagine everyone is aware a Mariner must contact our friends at the CG of any new prescriptions taken within 30 days. Pilots too.
I did not know this…what is the supposed procedure for making this notification and does a man’s license get temporarily suspended until a new medical review takes place? Wouldn’t that be lovely!
oh no ! Katy bar-the-door…somebody is “cutting and pasting” some really politicaly inclined and controversial awareness issues here.
It’s about time !
And now gents - we have an agenda !
Thank you.
[QUOTE=c.captain;9872]I have to agree cajuntugster…wasn’t Pelosi a big supporter of the SF Bar Pilots publically sanctioned private monopoly before Cota’s little episode and only tried to distance herself from that position after it became political poison KoolAid to take their side?
I still say however that the time has come for these “Associations” to be disempowered by turning over all functions of admin and oversight to public bodies. Let these associations remain alive but cut their testicles off and leave them impotent to keeping their little secret societies going. Complete and total transparency must be the new mantra when it comes to State controlled pilotage. Withold Federal development money from Ports who refuse to let in the light of day.[/QUOTE]
Very good insight on the BS !
. http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/MARINE/176.PDF
http://www.uscg.mil/legal/Suspension_Revocation/Commandant_Decisions/S_and_R_2280_2579/2535%20-%20SWEENEY.pdf
[I]In fact, appellant tried, unsuccessfully, to do so by[/I]
[I]testifying that, unbeknownst to him, brownies that he had eaten[/I]
[I]at a party about a week before the urine sample was given had[/I]
[I]been laced with marijuana. The law judge did not credit this[/I]
[I]testimony in light of evidence refuting unknowing ingestion of a brownie containing the drug.[/I]
I’m sorry for being hard on the Pilot Controversy here gents. Maybe being a bit too braisin. With that being said,…
I would like to know however, that if Maddam Pelosi was indeed a sponsor of the these Pilots - was she at the party to which a SF pilot speaks of in the above noted court case ?
I was only speaking from a past recollection that she was a supporter when she was in the California State legislature. It was something that I believe came out when the COSCO BUSAN incident occurred. I do not know exactly what year is was or it what fashion she offered support (it may have been when the State was getting involved in pilot selection?)
You know more than I on this…was Pelosi ever a supporter if the SF Bar Pilots or ever take a campain contribution from them?
YA GOTS TA BELIEVE ME…IT WASN"T ME…HONESTLY!
It was the captain, the ECDIS, the radar, the VHF, the GPS, the helmsman, the mate, the VTS, the current, my breakfast, the dog…
NO, NOT ME AT ALL! IT’S TRUE BECAUSE MY LAWYER SAYS SO!
A $500,000/year pill popping junkie and an embarrassment to professional mariners everywhere. How many more out there like him?
John, if you read this board, I hope your cell mate is a 350# biker who makes you his bitch the first night in the pokey…that will be a fitting punishment for you.
steaking of Stooges…didn’t Shemp Howard have the same haircut as this clown?
Nyuck, nyuck
[QUOTE=c.captain;9891]I was only speaking from a past recollection that she was a supporter when she was in the California State legislature. It was something that I believe came out when the COSCO BUSAN incident occurred. I do not know exactly what year is was or it what fashion she offered support (it may have been when the State was getting involved in pilot selection?)
You know more than I on this…was Pelosi ever a supporter if the SF Bar Pilots or ever take a campain contribution from them?[/QUOTE]
San Francisco Bar Pilots | OpenSecrets
LOOK AT RECEIPIENTS. IN 2000, SHE GOT 500, IN 2002, 500. it’s Feinstein and Boxer who are in the THOUSANDS RECEIVED FROM SF BAR PILOTS. THINK THEY SEE THE LIGHT THOUGH…LOOK AT THE LEGISTLATION THEY PASSED…WORDED “TAKING INTO ACCOUNT” THE POLITICAL TIMEBOMB THEIR ADDRESSING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ?
[quote=c.captain;9893]
ya gots ta believe me…it wasn"t me…honestly!
It was the captain, the ecdis, the radar, the vhf, the gps, the helmsman, the mate, the vts, the current, my breakfast, the dog…
No, not me at all! It’s true because my lawyer says so!
A $500,000/year pill popping junkie and an embarrassment to professional mariners everywhere. How many more out there like him?
John, if you read this board, i hope your cell mate is a 350# biker who makes you his bitch the first night in the pokey…that will be a fitting punishment for you.[/quote]
your being way too hard on the guy. Havent you looked over 11.5 hr. Ntsb webcast conducted 2/18/09 ? At one time during the show… I thought i was suppose to call up and say “what’s my line”…but they had no visible phone # on the screen. And when i was making popcorn during intermission - i missed a certain question and answer part where member mrs. Hersman said " it’s like the fox watching the hen house" when refering to these organizations.
Want to know the best kept secret in town? It was the cook who dun it !
[quote=oliveoil;9894]San Francisco Bar Pilots | OpenSecrets
LOOK AT RECEIPIENTS. IN 2000, SHE GOT 500, IN 2002, 500. it’s Feinstein and Boxer who are in the THOUSANDS RECEIVED FROM SF BAR PILOTS. THINK THEY SEE THE LIGHT THOUGH…LOOK AT THE LEGISTLATION THEY PASSED…WORDED “TAKING INTO ACCOUNT” THE POLITICAL TIMEBOMB THEIR ADDRESSING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ?[/quote]
You’re right Ms. Oil…I remember now it was Feinstein that was mentioned in the SF Chronicle
…no wonder my Google search didn’t turn up anything. Thanks
[quote=c.captain;9897]You’re right Ms. Oil…I remember now it was Feinstein that was mentioned in the SF Chronicle
…no wonder my Google search didn’t turn up anything. Thanks[/quote]
"[B]ALL RIGHT… WHO IS THE SPONSOR OF THE GROUP WHO BRINGS UP QUERIES OF POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS AT NTSB INVESTIGATIVE HEARINGS… AND SHOULD WE DO THAT DURING THE NEXT AIRPLANE CRASH INVESTIGATION ALSO … AS THIS HAS SO MUCH RELEVANCE TO THIS BULL SHIT"[/B]
CHAIRMAN CUMMINGS QUOTE…
“[I]Hearings must be followed by vigilant oversight[/I]
[I]of promised actions and by ongoing[/I]
[I]investigation of continuing developments[/I]”.
http://www.americansalvage.org/Soundings/Winter2008.pdf
FOLLOWED WITH FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OPENSECRETS.ORG:
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[B][U]AMERICAN PILOTS ASSOCIATION TO CHAIRMAN CUMMINGS:[/U][/B]
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[B]02/29/08[/B]
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=vblack11></TD></TR><TR><TD class=vblack12 align=middle>[B]CG Commandant among Witnesses for Oil Spills Protection Hearing[/B] </TD></TR><TR><TD class=vblack11 align=middle></TD></TR><TR><TD class=vblack11 style=“TEXT-ALIGN: left”><!-- IMAGE TABLE --><!-- End IMAGE TABLE -->WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation announced today the witnesses for a Surface Transportation and Merchant Marine Subcommittee hearing on protecting our shores from oils spills. The witnesses are listed below.
The purpose of this hearing is to evaluate operation incidents associated with oil spills. The Subcommittee will examine non-tank vessel fuel tank design, the Coast Guard’s Vessel Traffic System (VTS), and the U.S. vessel pilot system.
[B][U]Protecting our Shores from Oil Spills – Operational Procedures and Ship Designs[/U][/B]
[B]Surface Transportation and Merchant Marine Infrastructure, Safety, and Security Subcommittee[/B]
[B]Date: [/B][B]Tuesday, March 4, 2008[/B]
[B]Time: 2[/B][B]:30 p.m.[/B]
[B]Location: Room 253, Russell Senate Office Building[/B]
[B][U]Witnesses[/U]:[/B]
[B][U]Panel I[/U][/B]
[B]The Honorable [/B][B]Admiral Thad W. Allen[/B], Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard,
[B][U]Panel II[/U][/B]
[U][B]Mr. Paul Kirchner, Executive Director and General Counsel, American Pilots Association[/B][/U]
[B]Captain Ed Page[/B], U.S. Coast Guard (Retired), President, Marine Exchange of Alaska
[B]Dr. Kirsi Tikka[/B], Vice President, Global Technology and Business Development, American Bureau of Shipping
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