Anybody familiar with this?
with what regards exactly? end of voyage?
Leaving vessel before hitch is finished due to crew coordinators misrepresenting vessel horsepower spec. Captain threatened me with “breaking ships articles”.
Was this a foreign run?
[QUOTE=STEVO63;109911]Leaving vessel before hitch is finished due to crew coordinators misrepresenting vessel horsepower spec. Captain threatened me with “breaking ships articles”.[/QUOTE]
I don’t think you have much to stand on there to get out of them. The worse is that you get logged but I believe you have the right to submit a statement in the official log if you are. You pay your way home and the travel for your relief as well out of wages owned. I do not know if the USCG investigates these occurrences anymore but they used to an could take action against your MMC.
Where is the ship at present and how much time do you have remaining before the articles are ended?
I have to say I have never seen anyone break articles, but I have seen a few unhappy people come down with mysterious illnesses and injuries.
Ask to be paid off mutual consent. Cough up the bread to fly home and next time read the fine print. That mysterious illness/injury stuff can come back to haunt you at a later date.
[QUOTE=RichM;109936]Ask to be paid off mutual consent. Cough up the bread to fly home and next time read the fine print. That mysterious illness/injury stuff can come back to haunt you at a later date.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for all the replies. Situation is resolved. Came to agreement with relief. I received all pay due, no penalty, no marks on MMD, just a very bad experience. Would still like to know what potential problems could arise from “breaking ships articles” and what are mariners options if situations like this happen. Cannot locate anything in CFR’s. Definitely will pay closer attention to what I am signing! This was a foreign run on vessel supposed to be over 4000 hp to get more unlimited hp seatime to raise license. Vessel was in serious mechanical trouble and I am happy to be off of it! Thanks again!
[QUOTE=STEVO63;110675]Thanks for all the replies. Situation is resolved. Came to agreement with relief. I received all pay due, no penalty, no marks on MMD, just a very bad experience. Would still like to know what potential problems could arise from “breaking ships articles” and what are mariners options if situations like this happen. Cannot locate anything in CFR’s. Definitely will pay closer attention to what I am signing! This was a foreign run on vessel supposed to be over 4000 hp to get more unlimited hp seatime to raise license. Vessel was in serious mechanical trouble and I am happy to be off of it! Thanks again![/QUOTE]
statutes regarding Articles of Agreement are found in 46US Code…actual administrative policy is likely in the USCG Marine Safety Manual or Policy Letters
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/46C103.txt
“It also is agreed that if a seaman considers himself or herself to be aggrieved by any breach of this agreement or otherwise, the seaman shall present the complaint to the master or officer in charge of the vessel, in a quiet and orderly manner, who shall take steps that the case requires.”
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