How about the old guys who are career 3rds, career QMEDS, etc. For all their “experience” and “knowledge” they sure are lazy shitheads.
20, 30 years of sea time under their belts and they are often clueless. Certainly nor interested in working hard or moving up like some younger 3rds/Q’s.
If I can I try and fire them. If the guy hasn’t learned how to do his job in 20 years of sailing why the fuck should I be responsible for his training?