It certainly should. According to the NTSB’s report on the loss of the El Faro there was a massive, almost inconceivable failure of the captain and crew to have a shared picture of the situation. Are the various schools and training facilities going to be able to maintain the underlying attitude …

This is from the NTSB report: With recurrent training, all officers would have a unified understanding of expectations with regard to effective communication, assertiveness, and working as a well-organized and competent team. This is not true. There is a belief that if a person has graduated fro…

[image] lm1883: This incident would be better covered in the leadership and management course than BRM. Why?

[image] lm1883: This incident would be better covered in the leadership and management course than BRM. The NTSB is calling it a failure of BRM, they seem to be taking a broad view of what that means. Either way a lot of the human factors core concepts are the same. Seems like a lot of ove…

[image] Kennebec_Captain: A comprehensive course should cover how to correct or question a superior without appearing insubordinate. I know you’re being serous but sir, if I may be permitted to speak freely and without disrespect perceived as I intend only the deepest respect towards you as I…

I grew up in the same town as a now famous con man turned FBI agent but back then nobody had heard of him. A teacher in high school had know this guys and assigned his book to the class. It was very good and many years later Steven Speilberg made a movie of the book with the same name… Catch Me If Y…

[image] DeckApe: I know you’re being serous but sir, if I may be permitted to speak freely and without disrespect perceived as I intend only the deepest respect towards you as I am unworthy to voice such an opinion, teaching the underlings how to grovel at the feet of their masters sends exactly…

[image] john: How does someone, without any medical knoweldge and no medical training who never picked up a scalpel quickly become the best heart doctor in the stare?? Fake it till ya make it!

[image] New3M: Fake it till ya make it! No. That’s how you kill people :wink:

This is from the report: The concept of mitigated speech is common in a hierarchical system, such as on the bridge of a ship. If a member of the bridge team disagrees with the captain and takes action to defy or challenge his or her authority, that is considered insubordination, which could result…

[image] john: How does someone, without any medical knoweldge and no medical training who never picked up a scalpel quickly become the best heart doctor in the stare?? Most tasks in even “skilled professions” are not that complicated when following well established procedures, with one big ca…

Will the El Faro Cause a Rethink of BRM/MRM* Training?

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Kennebec_Captain February 8, 2018, 8:03pm 10

Hey DeckApe, thanks for pointing out that my message is not clear. Perhaps I should have said teach subordinates the importance of speaking up while avoiding mitigated speech

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Will the El Faro Cause a Rethink of BRM/MRM* Training?

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