Proposed changes to Jones Act could cost thousands of (foreign) offshore jobs

Really?!? That’s such amazing news!!!

You are either an excellent troll or seriously dense.

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I believe that is correct. The Jones Act covers the carriage of cargo between US ports. What matters is that the cargo is moved from one US port to another US port, choosing aroute through a foreign port does not change anything.

And yes, for some purposes offshore installations within the US OCS are considered “US ports.”

Just out of sheer curiosity, are you guys referring to this?

http://maritimeglobalnews.com/news/cabotage-rules-changes-proposed-cm0aey

Yes, the OP article was referring to that rule change (really a change of the law’s interpretation).

Thanks.

Obama tried to implement stricter Jones Act rules to be applied for the GoM Oil and Gas industry in 2009 but was thwarted by political opponents then. He pressed the case through on 18. Jan. 2017, just two days before the end of his administration: http://www.platts.com/latest-news/oil/washington/trump-administration-moving-ahead-with-ending-21424030
Surprise, surprise!!! The Trump administration is going ahead with something Obama proposed. What is happening???

Exactly as I predicted. This is completely consistent with Trump’s America First agenda. This is long overdue, but welcome news.

Yes it is as predicted, but the consequences may not be what you are hoping for: http://www.oilpubs.com/oso/article.asp?v1=20271

Why did you post that? It just makes the same argument that has already been discussed in this thread.

Yes who would have thought an international association of the people being forced out are saying it’s a bad idea? As stated previously it’s not a total ban. If there isnt a domestically owned/built/crewed specialty vessel available that can perform a certain task then a foreign vessel would be brought in. The fact that the helicopter waiting area has vibrating recliners is not going to be the deciding criteria anymore. IMCA is crying wolf and I’m fine with them being upset they can’t steal our jobs anymore.

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IMCA is an international association, which also have American Marine Contractors as members.
I don’t think recliners has been a major factor in deciding to use foreign vessels, only the capability and efficiency of the vessels, their equipment and manning. If you think they come cheap, think again.

What difference does it make who they are if the premise of their argument is wrong?

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When foreign vessels become unavailable as a result of the proper enforcement of the Jones Act, new American vessels will be built and crewed to fill the gap. We will be amazed at how quickly they will be built once there is a need.

At first American built vessels will cost more, but as more are built the cost will drop into the range of Northern European built vessels and the quality will be as good or better.

In true “emergencies” when it becomes necessary to use a foreign vessel, that’s fine, so long as they hire and train at least two American mariners at full pay for every foreign worker onboard.

To justify new investment offshore oil needs to do the same thing that onshore oil has done. Reduce costs by 50%. Onshore oil did it with American equipment and workers. I have no doubt that Offshore oil can do the same.

No it doesn’t matter, even if their argument is right. Just saying.

The U.S. government is saying they are going to give waivers more scrutiny. An honest rebuttal would address that issue. Instead the industry is claiming that a complete elimination non-JA vessels from the oil patch would be very costly, something that has not been proposed by anyone.

The opponents of increased scrutiny are attempting to conflate the two, it’s a straw man argument.

It doesn’t matter who sets up and knocks down a strawman, it’s still an invalid argument.

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http://cqrcengage.com/offshoremarine/home?0

Click the link and send an email to the CBP person in charge.

From: Ashley Smith [mailto:ashley@offshoremarine.org]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:25 PM
Subject: OMSA Seeks Your Help One More Time!

Dear Marine Industry Partner:
As you know, tomorrow is the deadline for submitting comments in support of Customs and Border Protection’s recent action to properly enforce the Jones Act.
We want to end the comment period with scores of positive comments in support of the Jones Act and CBP’s important action. As such, we are once again asking that you engage your employees, contractors, and supporters by sending them this link and asking that they contact CBP directly.
Instead of sending a letter to Congress, this time the “Take Action” button will send an email directly to the official email CBP has set up to receive comments regarding their efforts to revoke flawed letter rulings.
Again, CBP needs to know they have our support. Thus, even if you or your employees participated in our last letter writing campaign, we hope you will join this one as well to ensure CBP’s records accurately reflect how important this issue is to our industry.
Thank you in advance for your assistance in this matter, and please let me know how OMSA can be of assistance to you and your company.
Sincerely,
Aaron Smith
President and CEO
Offshore Marine Service Association
New Orleans Exchange Center
935 Gravier Street, Suite 2040
New Orleans, LA 70112
Phone: 504-528-9411
Fax: 504-528-9415
Cell: 504-258-3378
Email: Aaron.Smith@offshoremarine.org