Maersk fires captain due to harassment case from 2015

[DamnYankee]

@Kennebec_Captain

The cadet involved in that case has been known all along.

If I remember correctly, he was signed on as Second Mate and was witness to harassment of the male cadet as well as being harassed himself.

[Kennebec_Captain]

Yes, you’re right, I recall now. In my defense didn’t really want to post on this thread. I waited until the situation was in extremis. .

[DamnYankee]

Oh I agree that it is a Major Marine Casualty at this point

[Louisd75]

@spowiednick

If You deduct the time between event and the moment the case got some traction , then it is not surprising. One can not expect firing/dismissal of the senior officer based on tip offs or rumors , blogs , news stories and/or ratting/snitching.

There are grievance procedures , disciplinary procedures , legal procedures and all administration/bureaucratic machines are slow and cautious not to overcook it as unfair dismissals in case of permanent contract may prove very costly. In case He got shitty short term/voyage contract like 95% of FOC seafarers he would be a gonner, ditched long time ago.

I will keep my ground stating that Maersk SMS is the best I have ever read in comparison with many others. But it is my subjective opinion.

I think that even you can agree that seven years is a mite bit excessive to conduct an investigation regarding an incident that occurred on the bridge with witnesses and within earshot of the VDR.

On the topic of SMS, you can have the greatest SMS book in the world but if it is not enforced or a blind eye is turned at times then it’s really not all that great. You’ve undoubtedly gotten enough experience dealing with PSC and various regulatory bodies to know a written rule can be interpreted differently depending on who is reading it.

And this is hardly an issue endemic to US ships; the victims happen to have a pretty big platform in which to make themselves heard.

And since you love links, here’s one for your perusal: Sea no evil: the life of a modern sailor - Telegraph

[spowiednick]

Alias Luisd75.
I am not sure i shall continue on this thread as I have screwed it up hugely by confusing this two distinct cases .I am sorry , mea culpa , I should have read all the threads and I did not and have drawn misleading conclusions basis scanty information.

Shit happens and even if i pulled the argument , that “METOO” is an all encompassing, all inclusive movement applying to young woman and man and ask You to replace “she” with “he” in my comments claiming it makes sense , then I would make myself even greater idiot.
As some wisely put it it is a “major marine casualty” . Finito de la musica and I must eat my own shit due to lack of diligence .

@Louisd75

And this is hardly an issue endemic to US ships

@spowiednick

As the issue of rape/harassment seems to be wide spread in US Merchant Marine as reported by some news joints

It appears so in some maritime news joints and i do not follow other news regarding maritime issues and/or industry. However I saw some references/comments alleging the existence of " rape culture " but have no opinion of my own.

On other issues i have not further comments , which i believe will be most welcome by moderators and community.

Thx for the link.
Cheers