[QUOTE=tengineer;110319]I know near nothing about towing but I would assume the Aviq master had some heavy duty towing experience. I am sure Shell would have insisted on that considering everything that was at stake and with the whole world was watching to see how this Alaskan drilling was going to work out.[/QUOTE]
COME ON MAN!..do you remember the entire summer leading up to the KULLUK going aground!
[QUOTE=gulf_engineer;110306]The only thing diesel electric about the aiviq are the TTs. Other than that, it’s shaft driven.[/QUOTE]
DOH! My error…I thought AIVIQ was a full DE vessel. Should have checked the specs.
[QUOTE=tengineer;110319]I know near nothing about towing but I would assume the Aviq master had some heavy duty towing experience. I am sure Shell would have insisted on that considering everything that was at stake and with the whole world was watching to see how this Alaskan drilling was going to work out.[/QUOTE]
No, the Master on board (at the time) did not have very much towing experience - I have more in my pinkie toe.
[QUOTE=Tugs;110328]Sorry if I pissed you off. I was just asking a question and am still wondering.
I guess I found my answer.
Tonnage: 12,892 GT
3,867 NT
4,129 DWT[/QUOTE]
No worries, didn’t piss me off at all. Actually I was being a bit facetious myself.
[QUOTE=c.captain;110330]COME ON MAN!..do you remember the entire summer leading up to the KULLUK going aground![/QUOTE]
Perhaps you could summarize for those of us who care not to go thru an entire summers worth of bits and pieces. For some strange reason I believe you could do it all in a paragraph, even including invectives!
[QUOTE=anchorman;110337]No, the Master on board (at the time) did not have very much towing experience - I have more in my pinkie toe.[/QUOTE]
Then why was he there?
[QUOTE=tengineer;110340]Then why was he there?[/QUOTE]
he was likely one of the “chosen ones” by Gary Chouest…a golden boy awarded a plum command if you will!
[QUOTE=tengineer;110340]Then why was he there?[/QUOTE]
I will say that he did have some, now that I think about it. There was also a group of personnel that were highly experienced, there for towing and anchor-handling expertise, to advise the Master. But, fact of the matter is - not many unlimited master around with that type of experience. Personally, with that particularly winch, I think they would have been successful if they used the dynamic towing function - which I doubt they did, because most of the guys will not use it - the winch manufacture say towing should be done out of clutch, and on the brake.
[QUOTE=c.captain;110343]he was likely one of the “chosen ones” by Gary Chouest…a golden boy awarded a plum command if you will![/QUOTE]
Not even close; he did not even want to be there.
[QUOTE=anchorman;110352]Not even close; he did not even want to be there.[/QUOTE]
Well isn’t that nice…a man without the right experience in command of the most expensive vessel in the company’s fleet and he doesn’t even want it! You’d think ECO would have scoured the country looking for a UL master with Alaska towing experience including rig moves up there. No, not many of them out there but they exist…I know!
[QUOTE=c.captain;110353]Well isn’t that nice…a man without the right experience in command of the most expensive vessel in the company’s fleet and he doesn’t even want it! You’d think ECO would have scoured the country looking for a UL master with Alaska towing experience including rig moves up there. No, not many of them out there but they exist…I know![/QUOTE]
Does that person need a contact number?..I can hook them up and they will most certainly be hired.
[QUOTE=anchorman;110354]Does that person need a contact number?..I can hook them up and they will most certainly be hired.[/QUOTE]
GODDAMMIT MAN! That’s yours truly I’m talkin about and no, I’m not wanting the job nor would ECO have me if I did! I gather I am now quite “famous” in the GoM.
[QUOTE=c.captain;110355]GODDAMMIT MAN! That’s yours truly I’m talkin about![/QUOTE]
Never mind.
You would kiss the ring and be obedient to Don Gary? You would join his famiglia? YOU?!?!?
[QUOTE=Fraqrat;110357]You would kiss the ring and be obedient to Don Gary? You would join his famiglia? YOU?!?!?[/QUOTE]
If things were different. A different philosophy of operating maybe but not with the status quo. I am so incredibly disappointed in what happened in Alaska in 2012 that I want to weep and it takes A LOT for Sam Quint to cry!
[QUOTE=c.captain;110353]Well isn’t that nice…a man without the right experience in command of the most expensive vessel in the company’s fleet and he doesn’t even want it! You’d think ECO would have scoured the country looking for a UL master with Alaska towing experience including rig moves up there. No, not many of them out there but they exist…I know![/QUOTE]
Anchorman and you both make good points but also raise some troubling questions to those who like myself that wanted this venture to succeed.
There was a master of the vessel that didn’t even want to be there but there are probably better qualified out there? So why weren’t they there? This isn’t rocket science or uncharted territory, there are guys in the North Sea that have been working under similar conditions for years. That they weren’t there or people with Alaska towing experience weren’t there can’t be due to money, not with billions of dollars potentially at stake should this venture succeed. Finding the right people and paying them the money needed to get them is chump change in the scheme of things.The engine room failure is something I will not comment on but the entire affair speaks of hubris and ignorance from the management of Shell. That the USCG signed off on all this crap and is now investigating it is just plain funny.
[QUOTE=anchorman;110356]Never mind.[/QUOTE]
Yeah…as I said!
[QUOTE=tengineer;110359]The engine room failure is something I will not comment on but the entire affair speaks of hubris and ignorance from the management of Shell. [/QUOTE]
Let’s make sure this one sits right in the lap where it belongs and that is ECO.
[QUOTE=c.captain;110358]If things were different. A different philosophy of operating maybe but not with the status quo. I am so incredibly disappointed in what happened in Alaska this past summer that I want to weep![/QUOTE]
It’s getting deep in here. I happen to remember you being very vocal on wishing the worst on this project…from day one. I remember telling you to be careful what you wished for as this could be a boom or bust for all of us. You had a hard on for Noble to fail all along, don’t weep now.
