Foreign Officers soon to be on US Ships

[QUOTE=seadawg;43212]you are correct in your assessment of OMSA…OMSA is an [B][U]“ASSOCIATION”[/U][/B] of vessel owner/operators…a very effective one I might add!!one has to wonder from where and how they derived such influence;);)??[/QUOTE]

Bribes.
Excuse me, I meant to say “campaign contributions”

http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/louisiana_galliano_70354.asp?cycle=10

See the link above for 2010 contributions from the tiny town of Galliano. Some might find it interesting that folks from Galliano Louisiana are contributing so much money to the Alaskans for Don Young campaign. Then again if you know anything about the bidness of politics and oil you wouldn’t be surprised.

[QUOTE=c.captain;43179] You know as well as I that there would be considerable opposition from both the unions and the vessel owners as they will see an association as a threat. No matter how much one could say about trying to convince the other parties that the association’s charter would not in any way be for collective bargaining and only for representing mariner interest in Washington, it will not be believed by these groups. The chances of fighting and beating both OMSA and the unions makes getting such an association on its feet difficult at best. I am a realist and recognize that getting an association formed and becoming a going concern would more than likely not make it hence why we do not have such an association today. [/QUOTE]

That’s just the cold hard facts.
From one who has been on several contract committes, the hardest job is to get past everyone’s personal agendas. Even with a common ground (such as not exporting your job!), it would be easier to herd cats.

[QUOTE=cappy208;43187]Assuming you have made sure to check the “public submissions” box on the search page ( and you must do that each time you visit the page) you will see all the submissions.

Did that work?[/QUOTE]

Nah, I read the FAQ and I was expecting to see it too soon. It could take a couple of weeks. I guess I have to be patient.

Well what do ya know it went up today.

[QUOTE=CaptAndrew;43234]
Well what do ya know it went up today.[/QUOTE]

It went way UP! by my count 18 new comments added to the Docket in one day and the only pro one is still from OMSA. Every other one is in opposition to the Coast Guard’s proposal and for the most part are from individual US mariners. Reading the responses, I am left with an impression that the majority of the comments received was in response to what has been posted here on gCaptain about this issue.

Six days to go, let’s try to get [B]at least[/B] another dozen comments in to the Docket. Let’s make the sure the US merchant mariner is not going to accept another stab in the back and get those voices part of the public record where they will remain to be called upon in the future as we will likely have to fight this one for some time to come.

For myself, as one of the loudest here to oppose this giveway of our livelihoods by the USCG, I can only offer my sincere thanks to everybody who has answered the call and to all those who will do so before the deadline on the 27th. Thanks also to John and Mickey for giving us this forum where we can communicate with eachother on these important issues. That alone creates an association of mariners which helps the cause.

Maritime Executive magazine released this OpEdtoday…it is a MUST read:

Are US Maritime Jobs in Jeopardy?
Thursday, October 21st, 2010

The US Coast Guard (USCG) is currently accepting comments of its review on whether recognition of foreign Standards of Certification, Training and Watchkeeping (STCW) certificates of foreign mariners to work on US flagged vessels overseas should become law.

Concerned MarEx readers asked if the USCG is being persuaded by special interests or lobbyists for US vessel operators to change the dynamics of the requirement to employ US merchant mariners on US flagged vessels, which could potentially do an end run around the Jones Act as well. However, the fact of the matter is that the law already exists, and foreign officers can and do work on US vessels working overseas pursuant to 46 USC 8103 (b)(3). What is in play is the recent Manila Amendments to STCW Convention via section I/10, which has required the USCG, as well as all nations, to recognize STCW certificates issued by foreign countries.

The current law, USC 8103, addresses only offshore vessels less than 1600 gross tons and mobile offshore drilling units (MODU) working outside the outer continental shelf (OCS). Presently, the master of a US vessel working overseas is the responsible party for certifying the validity of foreign officers’ STCW certificates under 46 CFR 15.720. The USCG has not been involved in validating a foreign officer’s STCW certificate.

The Issue at Hand

The MarEx reviewed all the comments submitted to the USCG. Obviously, American seamen are highly concerned and extremely anxious that the endorsement of foreign STCW certificates for officers working on US vessels will lead to a massive breakdown of the status quo, which will ultimately dismantle the Jones Act. The assertion is that foreign seafarers should also meet the same maritime security requirements imposed on US seafarers including a TWIC as a condition of credentialing. Further comments say foreign officers need to meet the same levels of competency, drug testing, and medical standards required of US mariners.

Offshore Marine Services Association (OMSA) members, who the law will really impact, have been working overseas under duress for many years due to foreign Cabotage laws, which have often led to fines and delays of its vessels. OMSA’s comments say USCG recognition of foreign STCW certificates will allow their vessels to work in harmony with foreign regulations and labor laws. OMSA’s push on the USCG will not impact the US Merchant Marine working on deepwater vessels and almost all of its 250 members are avid Jones Act supporters.

The Problem Lies Herein

I an offshore supply vessel or other similarly engaged vessel [/I]
of less than 1,600 gross tons as measured under section 14502 of
this title, or an alternate tonnage measured under section 14302
of this title as prescribed by the Secretary under section 14104
of this title that operates from a foreign port;

And: 46 USC 8103 establishes authority to waive the requirement of US citizenship for: (C) Any other vessel if the Secretary determines, after an investigation, that qualified seamen who are citizens of the US are not available.

These vague and potentially onerous caveats of this law are creating hostility among US mariners and organizations. To say US mariners don’t trust the government and future generations of regulators would be a huge understatement. First and foremost, US government has neglected the US merchant marine and maritime industries especially US shipyards for decades. There is never enough money and there aren’t enough jobs in the US maritime industry.

The mere fact that the Secretary (a regulator) can waive the US citizen requirement for vessel operators if there is a shortage of US qualified mariners is akin to a mugging in the back alley, which doesn’t sit well with US mariners. A few comments have pointed out that the arm of the federal government in charge of investigating the lack of qualified mariner have said, when confronted, they do not have the authority to investigate each and every claim and that they must accept the shipowners’ statement. And, many of the comments said they feel the motivation for profits will circumvent the law.

The Manila amendments of the STCW Convention speak directly to Flag of Convenience where there is no linkage between the flag state and the country issuing a mariner’s STCW certificate, because various countries have different training and assessment requirements. But, before accepting such certificates as equivalent to US credentials the foreign seafarer should meet the requirements pertaining to drug testing, drivers record checks for DUIs in their own country and medical examinations on the same level that US mariners are required to measure up to.

In order to eliminate any confusion or dissent among US mariners, USCG endorsement should contain a limitation to only those vessels specifically mentioned under 46 USC 8103. And, any other waiver of US citizen mariners should be in the public record and open to comments just like this proposed rulemaking process.

Comments and related materials are due by October 27, 2010 for Docket No. 2010-0797 at www.regulations.gov.

Tony Munoz can be contacted at tonymunoz@maritime-executive.com with comments, input and questions on this editorial.

I think Tony has been reading gCaptain! Good on you mate…thanks for your support!

added note: I am not in full agreement with Tony that the deepsea US flagged merchant marine is immune from the loss of seagoing jobs to foreign mariners. They might not be the jobs at risk in the immediate term but as mentioned before, there is “mission creep” and once foreign officers get CoE’s from the Coast Guard, I believe that there will be a slow but steady loss of jobs to American mariners. Remember, this applies the ANY vessel and even though many of these companies are very pro Jones Act, it doesn’t mean they are necessarily pro US mariner afterall OMSA is very pro Jones Act for their vessels in the GoM. The deepsea sector of the industry which would probably be most at risk are those vessels which are sailing foreign especially those who remain foreign continually. Ultimately, this could be the touchstone to the formation of a 2nd flag and we have seen from history what happens to the mariners from the flag state when 2nd flags are created. They lose!

I see NMA has mention of this in their news letter.

[QUOTE=injunear;43246]I see NMA has mention of this in their news letter.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place but from the NMA’s home page it appears that the NPRM they have commented on was from February this year and is found at http://www.nationalmariners.org/reseachreports/adobe/rdocuments/rdocuments/R-206%20_STCW.pdf which addresses training issues under the STCW being changed to the detriment of the hawsepipe mariner.

I do also want to mention that I did receive a reply from my email to Richard Block at NMA and he indicates that they will be filing a comment on behalf of their association. Thank you Richard.

News letter #73. Not on the website yet. It’s the same article with a few comments.
[B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT][NMA Comment: We fully agree with the foregoing[/LEFT]
interpretations.]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]

I’m confused, is NMA is coming out on the side of OMSA? I truly hope that isn’t the case.

[B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT]Here’s the article and comments from news letter #73.

U.S. COAST GUARD RECOGNITION OF
FOREIGN STCW CERTIFICATES[/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2][LEFT][[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]Source[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2]: Editorial by Tony Munoz, Publisher, Maritime
Executive Magazine. Oct. 21, 2010. Tony Munoz can be
contacted at [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff]tonymunoz@maritime-executive.com [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2]with
comments, input and questions on this editorial. NMA
comments and [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]emphasis [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2]are identified as such.][/LEFT]
[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT]Are U.S. Maritime Jobs in Jeopardy?[/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2][LEFT]The U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) is currently accepting
comments of its review on whether recognition of foreign
Standards of Certification, Training and Watchkeeping
(STCW) certificates of [/SIZE][B][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman]foreign mariners to work on U.S.
flagged vessels [/B][/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2]overseas should become law.
Concerned MarEx readers asked if the USCG is being
persuaded by special interests or lobbyists for US vessel operators
to change the dynamics of the requirement to employ US
merchant mariners on US flagged vessels, which could
potentially do an end run around the Jones Act as well. However,
the fact of the matter is that [/SIZE][B][I][SIZE=2]the law already exists[/B][/I][/SIZE][SIZE=2], and [/SIZE][B][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman]foreign
officers can and do work on US vessels working overseas
pursuant to 46 USC 8103(b)(3)[/B][/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2]. What is in play is the recent
Manila Amendments to STCW Convention via section I/10,
which has required the USCG, as well as all nations, to recognize
STCW certificates issued by foreign countries.
The current law, 46 USC §8103, [/SIZE][B][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman]addresses only offshore
vessels less than 1600 gross tons [/B][/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2]and mobile offshore drilling
units (MODU) [/SIZE][B][I][SIZE=2]working outside the outer continental shelf[/LEFT]
[/B][/I][/SIZE][SIZE=2]LEFT. Presently, the [/SIZE][B][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman]master of a US vessel working
overseas [/B][/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]is the responsible party for certifying the validity of
foreign officers[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]’ [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]STCW certificates under 46 CFR §15.720.
The USCG has not been involved in validating a foreign
officer[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]s STCW certificate.[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT]The Issue at Hand[/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]The MarEx reviewed all the comments submitted to the
USCG. Obviously, American seamen are highly concerned
and extremely anxious that the endorsement of foreign STCW
certificates for officers working on US vessels will lead to a
massive breakdown of the status quo, which will ultimately
dismantle the Jones Act. The assertion is that foreign
seafarers should also meet the same maritime security
requirements imposed on US seafarers including a TWIC as a
condition of credentialing. Further comments say foreign
officers need to meet the same levels of competency, drug
testing, and medical standards required of US mariners.
Offshore Marine Services Association (OMSA) members,
who the law will really impact, have been working overseas
under duress for many years due to foreign Cabotage laws, which
have often led to fines and delays of its vessels. OMSA[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]s
comments say USCG recognition of foreign STCW certificates
will allow their vessels to work in harmony with foreign
regulations and labor laws. OMSA[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]s push on the USCG will not
impact the US Merchant Marine working on deepwater vessels[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial-Black][SIZE=1][LEFT]Newsletter 16[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]and almost[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]
[LEFT]all of its 250 members are avid Jones Act supporters.[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT]The Problem Lies Herein[/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2]LEFT an offshore supply vessel or other similarly engaged
vessel of less than 1,600 gross tons as measured under section
14502 of this title, or an alternate tonnage measured under
section 14302 of this title as prescribed by the Secretary under
section 14104 of this title [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]that operates from a foreign port[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2];
And: [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]46 USC 8103 establishes authority to waive the
requirement of US citizenship for: © Any other vessel if the
Secretary determines, after an investigation, that qualified
seamen who are citizens of the US are not available[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT][SIZE=2].[/LEFT]
[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT][NMA Comment: Our complaints go back to 2002 when a
Louisiana company tried to flood the market with 150
unlicensed deck engineers and 700 deckhands from
unknown foreign locations. This was only one attempt to
outsource American jobs. Refer to our File #GCM-40.][/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2][LEFT]These vague and potentially onerous caveats of this law
are creating hostility among US mariners and organizations.
To say US mariners don[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]t trust the government and future
generations of regulators would be a huge understatement.
First and foremost, US government has neglected the US
merchant marine and maritime industries especially US
shipyards for decades. There is never enough money and
there aren[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]t enough jobs in the US maritime industry.
The mere fact that the Secretary (a regulator) can waive
the US citizen requirement for vessel operators if there is a
shortage of US qualified mariners is akin to a mugging in
the back alley, which doesn[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]t sit well with US mariners[/B][/I][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]. [/SIZE][/FONT][B][I][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]A
few comments have pointed out that the arm of the federal
government in charge of investigating the lack of qualified
mariner have said, when confronted, they do not have the
authority to investigate each and every claim and that they
must accept the shipowners[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]’ [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT][SIZE=2]statement. And, many of the
comments said they feel the motivation for profits will
circumvent the law.[/LEFT]
[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][SIZE=2][LEFT][NMA Comment: We fully agree with the foregoing
interpretations.][/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]The Manila amendments of the STCW Convention speak
directly to Flag of Convenience where there is no linkage
between the flag state and the country issuing a mariner[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]’[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]s
STCW certificate, because various countries have different
training and assessment requirements. But, before accepting
such certificates as equivalent to US credentials the foreign
seafarer should meet the requirements pertaining to drug
testing, drivers record checks for DUIs in their own country
and medical examinations on the same level that US mariners
are required to measure up to.
In order to eliminate any confusion or dissent among US
mariners, USCG endorsement should contain a limitation to
only those vessels specifically mentioned under 46 USC 8103.
And, any other waiver of US citizen mariners should be in the
public record and open to comments just like this proposed
rulemaking process. Comments and related materials are due
by October 27, 2010 for Docket No. USCG-2010-0797 at[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][COLOR=#0000ff][LEFT]www.regulations.gov[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2].[/LEFT]
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on vessels of less than 1600 GRT on domestic waters (i.e.
the entire EEZ) was expressed quite clearly to Coast
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[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]

Just want to put this one out there. This is directly from the Maritime Executive OpEd

Offshore Marine Services Association (OMSA) members, who the law will really impact, have been working overseas under duress for many years due to foreign Cabotage laws, which have often led to fines and delays of its vessels. OMSA’s comments say <ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM> recognition of foreign STCW certificates will allow their vessels to work in harmony with foreign regulations and labor laws.

If OMSA companies are facing “duress” in operating their US flagged OSV’s in foreign nations then why don’t they just register them under the flag of the host nation or Vanuatu if the host nation is ok with that? A simple solution that requires absolutely no action by the US Coast Guard whatsoever. Lots of Vanuatu flagged vessels working in the GoM with foreign mariners. It seems that these OMSA companies are again rigging the system for their own benefit and want it all. They want the Stars and Stripes flying from the mast but not with any (or at least a minimal) American mariners onboard. Pretty much not giving a shit for the either the flag or port state but only for their own interests. Regulations and laws of any nation are just nuisances to be made to either go away or be circumvented.

and this one:

OMSA’s push on the <ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM> will not impact the US Merchant Marine working on deepwater vessels and almost all of its 250 members are avid Jones Act supporters.

Bullshit! NCLA got special legislation from the Congress to waive the requirement that the hotel personnel on the PRIDE OF AMERICA did not have to be even green card holders. Those personnel are not certified crew, but it is a clear example of how a corporation can go to the government saying that US citizens can not be found for the jobs. There were US citizens hired originally but they were paid so low and asked to do so many hours that it worked out to less than minimum wage. If they paid a decent wage for the work, then I have to wonder if NCLA would have had to go insist that they had to have foreign labor. This is a clear documented case of something already mentioned here, that this can happen with US mariners unless there are wage protections put into place. Offer such low pay that no American mariner will take the job and voila, time to call Blank Rome. 46USC8103(C) doesn’t mention in any way that wages cannot be used as a determining factor that “that qualified seamen who are citizens of the US are not available.”

MEBA’s legal department crafted a response to the docket that was on point, but asked the Coast Guard for better clarification for the public at large, since the obvious confusion and misconception, here especially. I agree with their submission and conclusion 100%

As of last check, 57 comments in the Docket and only OMSA clearly in favor of it. MEBA 1’s comment was cautionary and not particularly pro or against, but certainly pointing out disparities and ommissions in the language of the Notice.

Otherwise 100% opposition from US citizen mariners!

[QUOTE=c.captain;43288]As of last check, 57 comments in the Docket and only OMSA clearly in favor of it. MEBA 1’s comment was cautionary and not particularly pro or against, but certainly pointing out disparities and ommissions in the language of the Notice.

Otherwise 100% opposition from US citizen mariners![/QUOTE]

It was cautionary - straight down the middle. They recognized, and I quote “Nothing in the proposed policy suggests that the procedure for granting waivers under this provision or the frequency of such waivers will change under the new policy”. This is my exact same conclusion. I agree that the Coast Guard has an obligation to reiterate this conclusion of MEBA’s legal department, to the general public because most are not lawyers, or know the business implications for US companies trying to be competitive in foreign markets.

MMP chimes in…

[B]COAST GUARD CONSIDERS U.S. RECOGNITION OF FOREIGN STCW CERTIFICATESY[/B]

The Coast Guard is considering a policy on recognition of foreign-issued STCW certificates for employment on certain U.S. documented vessels. The Coast Guard solicits comments on the proposed policy in a notice in the Federal Register (Vol. 75, No. 186/Sept. 27, 2010/p. 59281).
MM&P has consistently opposed the employment on U.S. vessels of foreign seafarers holding foreign certificates.
Several years ago, however, a prior Congress waived, under very limited circumstances, the citizenship requirements for employment on some U.S. documented vessels, specifically Offshore Supply Vessels (OSVs) operating from foreign ports and Mobile Offshore Drilling Units (MODUs) operating beyond the waters of the U.S. Outer Continental Shelf. At present, the master of the vessel for which citizenship requirements have been waived has the sole discretion for determining the validity of foreign certificates and the qualifications of a foreign seafarer.
The MM&P position is that, in the limited circumstances where citizenship has been waived, the Coast Guard should make the determination as to qualifications using the STCW Convention and Code provisions. This includes compliance with the requirements of the Convention regarding standards of competence and standards of training and certification quality.
In addition, MM&P takes the position that the foreign seafarer should meet the many other U.S. requirements applied to U.S.-credentialed seafarers. This includes but is not limited to appropriate knowledge of the maritime legislation and regulations of the United States and the ability to communicate as required under 46 CFR 15.730. This also includes the U.S. requirements pertaining to drug testing, driver record check in the country of domicile for DUI, background check for a Transportation Workers Identification Credential (TWIC) and medical examinations under U.S. procedures and standards. Any other approach would discriminate against U.S. seafarers.
In order to eliminate any confusion over the scope of the authorization created by an endorsement issued to a foreign citizen holding a foreign certificate, MM&P asserts that any USCG endorsement should also cite the existing limitation to those vessels where the citizenship requirement has been specifically waived by Congress under 46 USC 8103 (b)(3 ), i.e., “an offshore supply vessel (OSV) [as that term is defined in 46 U.S.C. 2101(19)] that is operating from a foreign port; and mobile offshore drilling unit (MODU) (as that term is defined in 46 U.S.C. 2101(15a) that is operating beyond the water above the U.S. Outer Continental Shelf; and this endorsement does not apply to any vessel operating in water above the U.S. Outer Continental Shelf (as that term is defined in 43 U.S.C. 1331(a)”.
MM&P will be submitting comments to the docket on this issue. The deadline for comments is Oct. 27, 2010. MM&P’s comments will be posted as soon as they are finalized in the Members Only section of the MM&P web site, www.bridgedeck.org. To submit a comment, go to http://www.regulations.gov, click on the ‘‘submit a comment’’ box, which will then become highlighted in blue. In the ‘‘Document Type’’ drop-down menu, select ‘‘Notices’’ and insert ‘‘USCG–2010–0797’’ in the ‘‘Keyword’’ box. Click ‘‘Search,’’ then click on the balloon shape in the ‘‘Actions’’ column.

Why would OMSA which is the lobbying group for the OSV operators in the GOM be in favor of this and at “maximum speed” no less? Kinda lets you know how much they value their citizen mariners. I mean if there was a shortage of mariners I could MAYBE see this but there is a surplus of limited tonnage mariners right now and the companies OMSA represents are operating for the most part limited tonnage vessels.
Wonder if they’d be equally in favor of allowing foreign owned OSVs to work in the GOM? No, we know better than that. For years these guys have been wanting to do away with all facets of the Jones Act EXCEPT the one that says only US owned companies can work in US waters. Their vision of a perfect world would be, US company owned OSVs built in the Korea, China or wherever and manned by the lowest paid mariners they could find from anywhere in the world. They then take all the extra profits they make and put it in a bank in the Caymans.

I predict this measure will pass because there is too much money involved and the mariner vote isn’t going to swing any election. It’s the golden rule, “He with the gold rules”

Check this out from the OSMA web site . what a hypocritcal bunch of jerks.
[B]Protect the American Maritime Industry and American Mariners[/B]

One of OMSA’s chief missions is to “vigorously defend the cabotage laws of the United States”, better known as the Jones Act. Right now the Jones Act is under attack! These Jones Act pages contains facts, web links, news articles, and explanations to help you learn about and understand the need for, the benefits of, and the importance of the Jones Act to the economic and energy security of the United States of America. Words on this page in red contain links to articles with additional details on that topic.

Thanks CaptTomH

Your link didn’t work so I added it below

[QUOTE=CaptTomH;43319]Check this out from the OSMA web site . what a hypocritcal bunch of jerks
[B]Protect the American Maritime Industry and American Mariners[/B]. [/QUOTE]

here’s the text:

The Jones Act - The Fight Is On

Last Updated on Tuesday, 29 June 2010

Protect the American Maritime Industry and American Mariners

One of OMSA’s chief missions is to “vigorously defend the cabotage laws of the United States”, better known as the Jones Act. Right now the Jones Act is under attack! These Jones Act pages contains facts, web links, news articles, and explanations to help you learn about and understand the need for, the benefits of, and the importance of the Jones Act to the economic and energy security of the United States of America. Words on this page in red contain links to articles with additional details on that topic.

The Jones Act

The Jones Act is the best known of America’s cabotage laws. It says very simply that merchandise can only be transported by water between points in the United States on vessels that have U.S. owners, U.S. crews and are built in U.S. shipyards. The law was passed 90 years ago as a way to ensure that America had a healthy maritime industry, well-trained, professional seafarers and a healthy, thriving shipbuilding industry. All of those elements were and are necessary for national defense, security and economic strength.

The Problem

Getting foreign vessels to comply with the law in the offshore energy sector and getting our government to enforce the law the way it was written are a problem, and that problem is growing!
Two years ago, OMSA launched an initiative to track foreign vessels and report violations to Customs and Border Protection, a part of the Department of Homeland Security responsible for enforcing the Jones Act and other cabotage laws. Your help is needed in this effort. To report a possible violation of the Jones Act in the offshore energy sector, i.e. if you see a foreign flag vessel carrying merchandise between a US port and an offshore platform, drilling site or other structure, send an email to Joe Kavanaugh, OMSA’s Jones Act compliance officer, at<SCRIPT language=JavaScript type=text/javascript> <!-- var prefix = ‘mailto:’; var suffix = ‘’; var attribs = ‘’; var path = ‘hr’ + ‘ef’ + ‘=’; var addy10639 = ‘Joe’ + ‘@’; addy10639 = addy10639 + ‘offshoremarine’ + ‘.’ + ‘org’; document.write( '<a ’ + path + ‘'’ + prefix + addy10639 + suffix + ‘'’ + attribs + ‘>’ ); document.write( addy10639 ); document.write( ‘</a>’ ); //–> </SCRIPT> Joe@offshoremarine.org<SCRIPT language=JavaScript type=text/javascript> <!-- document.write( ‘<span style='display: none;'>’ ); //–> </SCRIPT> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it<SCRIPT language=JavaScript type=text/javascript> <!-- document.write( ‘</’ ); document.write( ‘span>’ ); //–> </SCRIPT> or call 504.307.7651 with as much detail as you know. Tips will be kept in confidence and will be investigated by the OMSA staff before any formal complaint is filed.

Now opponents of the Jones Act are fighting hard to delay and even kill a Customs and Border Protection proposal to toughen the Jones Act. If they are successful, it will mean more foreign vessels in America’s offshore energy sector and many of the jobs that might come from expanded offshore energy, whether it is wind or increased mineral exploration would go to foreign mariners. Click here for the CBP proposal and here for the current status.

American Vessels Help our Economy, Foreign Vessels Don’t.

A study commissioned by OMSA shows that U.S. flag offshore support vessels, the shipyards that build them and related industries produce annual benefits of:
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[li]100,000 Jobs[/li]> [li]$18 billion in business sales[/li]> [li]$4.6 billion in wages[/li]> [/ul]Those benefits don’t happen if foreign vessels take over the offshore work. They don’t build in America. They don’t generally hire Americans. Now there are concerns that they aren’t even paying taxes here. In October, the IRS issued a notice saying it was investigating foreign vessels that were working in the offshore oil and gas sector and not filing U.S. tax returns.

One of OMSA’s chief missions is to “vigorously defend the cabotage laws of the United States”, better known as the Jones Act. Right now the Jones Act is under attack! These Jones Act pages contains facts, web links, news articles, and explanations to help you learn about and understand the need for, the benefits of, and the importance of the Jones Act to the economic and energy security of the United States of America. Words on this page in red contain links to articles with additional details on that topic.

Everything that is in the piece is accurate and there in nothing I can argue with what OMSA states in it, but believe much of what they say rings hollow coming from their mouths. It is clear is that OMSA is a big champion of cabotage in the US when it protects the position of the OMSA members. What is hypocritical though is that when OMSA members have their vessels working in other countries they want to keep flying the US flag which is directly contrary to the concept of cabotage. Also they want to take full advantage of the opportunity to eliminate the US mariner from those vessels! I do not believe it is so much a matter of keeping in compliance with the cabotage laws of the port state. How many nations have such strict manning laws that NO foreign mariners can work in their waters? Waivers abound throughout the offshore world permitting mariners from other nations to work in a port state’s waters. Hell, look how it is happening right in the GoM with the issuance of waivers to foreign mariners and in an earlier thread statements were made by Norwegians that even Norway was permitting a certain number of foreign mariners to work offshore there! What OMSA member companies are facing is that the OSV restricted licenses held by many of their mariners are not valid in many the port states especially where vessels over 3000grt licenses are concerned and the vessels the oil companies want these big OSVs nowdays. Under the STCW those are unlimited tonnage cargo vessels and the port states expect them to be manned as such by mariners with compliant STCW certificates. This is why OMSA claims that their member companies are operating under “duress” when overseas and why their vessels are being “detained”. Of course, they could reflag their vessels or hire unlimited tonnage non trade restricted fully STCW approved US citizen mariners but that is something OMSA member companies could never accept doing. No unlimited American mariners!..they’ll demand to be union for certain and of course, the fewer American mariners means lower liability against unseaworthiness claims! OMSA’s simple answer…get a crew of unlimited tonnage Romanian or Polish officers and Phillipino seamen with the stamp of approval from the USCG and their problems with the port states are solved. They’ve already got the law [46USC8103(a)] on their side but they can’t take full advantage of that statute until they get the thorny foreign STCW recognition matter resolved. This is why OMSA wants the matter to pass so badly.

I’ve met with Joe Kavanaugh (OMSA’s Jones Act Enforcement agent) on these matters and was hoping to just maybe be able to combine their fight against foreign vessels taking cargo from OMSA vessels with my fight for the jobs lost to US mariners, but in the end OMSA offered no real support other than platitudes. Very sadly, they show no interest in our side of the issue but if they did, the situation with foreign mariners taking jobs from Americans would go away overnight. I even tried to point out to Joe that OMSA member companies stood to gain from getting the foreign mariners out of the GoM because when faced with the need to replace the foreign mariners with Americans, the shipowners would naturally turn to the established offshore companies with vessel maning contracts. They certainly would not want to have to go to a union! If I am not mistaken, Chouest already provides manning to a number of the vessels of other owners. They would stand to gain hansomely and honestly do not know why they want the status quo to stay in effect?

I think the evidence is unfortunately clear that where maritime labor is concerned, no one here can say that OMSA truly supports US citizen mariners.

“I’ve met with Joe Kavanaugh on these matters and was hoping to just maybe be able to combine their fight against foreign vessels taking cargo from OMSA vessels with my fight for the jobs lost to US mariners…OMSA in the end showed no interest in our side of the issue.”

They wouldn’t because the unorganized mariners are few in number and are not a force to be reckoned with. If I were a US vessel owner operating in a protected territory at above average rates and saw the opportunity to replace the US mariner with a well trained guy from the UK, Phillipines or elsewhere I’d do it in a heartbeat. #1 I wouldn’t have to worry about medical benefits as they are provided by their home country. #2. I wouldn’t have to pay FICA nor many other extra expenses involved with employing my fellow citizens.
I hate to be cynical but unless the unions with their political action money gets involved this is a done deal. Even then I’m not sure they can compete with OMSA’s billionaires.
I hope I’m wrong.

It looks like OSMA and these companies want their cake and to eat too! The want their American Flag vessels to be used in US waters but to able to hire cheap foreign labor to man the vessels . While not being a big union fan now maybe I was wrong ,if this is allowed it will be too late to get a union in . Perhaps we should start a Concerned Citizens for American Mariner Jobs.