First U.S.-flag Wind Farm Vessel Christened

They’ve been building these cat hulls down da buyuh for years…

https://www.boats.com/power-boats/1999-aluminum-swath-passenger-ferry-crew-boat-857259/

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1441508

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;184676]They’ve been building these cat hulls down da buyuh for years…[/QUOTE]

An obvious ploy to deny Utopian workers a fat paycheck as well as a being a devious means of getting around the Jones Act. Shocking, simply shocking!

[QUOTE=Steamer;184675]The Singapore government must have redefined “utopia” If they did the press was not allowed to report it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Singapore[/QUOTE]

I did NOT say that Singapore is an Utopia, but some see it as that way. Nobody in the know, least of all the Singapore Government, make any such claim, though.

That there is differences between the way things are done in the US and in Singapore is undeniable. What works and what doesn’t can be debated.
Western media is mostly occupied with finding something wrong. (Chewing Gum ban, Caning etc.) and calling Singapore a “Nanny State”.
They hate the fact that Singapore has been successful in developing a strong economy and a successful “third way”, which is admired by many.
When Lee Kuan Yew died last year the media was hoping to find somebody that would declare their happiness that they were now free from the despotic dictator. To their dismay, there was an outpouring of grief, with people lining up in the rain for hours to pay their respect. (How CAN they. Don’t they know what is best for them??)

OK, so you have strict rules that is mostly enforced. The mandatory death penalty has been removed, but discretionary death penalty is still upheld and is popular in the population. (As in the US)
One law that is not being enforced is the ban on homosexuality. It is a conservative society, so lifting it would be problematic. (Coffee shop talk rules)

Most Singaporean are happy with their lot, hence the ruling party got over 70% in last years election. They are also happy that they can walk the back streets at night without worrying. Singapore has among the lowest crime rates of any big cities in the world and no guns. There hasn’t been a murder committed with a gun for several years.

I have lived there for most of my grown life and has never felt discriminated against, oppressed or in any other manner discomforted by the strict laws and lack of Chewing gum.

For those who visit Singapore and do so, I have only one advise:
One of the best airports in the world is but a short taxi ride from anywhere in Singapore. There are planes leaving from there to just about anywhere in the world. Don’t agonies over how bad Singapore is, get on the next plane out.

For those who don’t know Singapore: Don’t believe everything you read, see or hear in the Western media.

[QUOTE=Fraqrat;184676]They’ve been building these cat hulls down da buyuh for years…

https://www.boats.com/power-boats/1999-aluminum-swath-passenger-ferry-crew-boat-857259/

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1441508[/QUOTE]

I didn’t say there are no US-built Catamarans.
I know, I have been on board the Catamaran Drillship “E.W.Thornton”, built in the 1960’s and a Catamaran AHT built for McDermott back in 1970’s. (None of which was very successful by the way)

The difference is the building material. The HSCs presented here is built from carbon fiber composite material and weigh far less than the ones you show here. For HSCs that is a major advantage. (Read my post first)

[QUOTE=ombugge;184638]You mean like the Missionkraft 20 m. MP Wind farm boat here?: http://missionkraft.com/?page_id=27

That is a highly sophisticated design for the future, but has any actually been built yet?[/QUOTE]

Yes. +45kts for last 3 years.
Foil is adjustable up and down abt 200mm
Lobstah pot lines…
Guess we’ll have ta sharpen up the leading edge.
LOL.

[QUOTE=+A465B;184740]Yes. +45kts for last 3 years.
Foil is adjustable up and down abt 200mm
Lobstah pot lines…
Guess we’ll have ta sharpen up the leading edge.
LOL.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. Can you show, or name the vessel(s)???
Br.AA made the Air Cushion Catamaran (SES Cat) but not economically viable for civilian use: http://www.braa.no/about-brdrene-aa/

The principe is used by the RNN Skjold class Corvettes though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvWS01GjKIw
Here is another video not made by the builder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3YE0LP36AM
(I believe the US Navy contemplated this design to the much malignant LSCs)

[QUOTE=ombugge;184443]“Built in the UK”, not in the IMPLIED “Socialist Utopia” of Scandinavia.
What is wrong with you guys? You see criticism where none is intended, or IMPLIED.

The mentioning of UK, ruled by the Torries for many years, was to build up to a reply to the snide remark about “Socialist Utopia”.

Am I to understand that the existence of Scandinavia, which is now also governed by right-wing Governments, are an Utopia??
UTOPIA: an imaginary place in which the government, laws, and social conditions are perfect: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/utopia

Imaginary; No. Last I saw, Scandinavia does exist. Perfect; depends on what you compare to, but I don’t think anybody in Scandinavia has made that claim.[/QUOTE]

European Socialist Utopias are in transition toward Caliphates because of Sharia-Bolshevism.

Nice to see the first american wind farm vessel, will be a good source of employment in the future.

[QUOTE=ombugge;184687]

I did NOT say that Singapore is an Utopia, but some see it as that way. Nobody in the know, least of all the Singapore Government, make any such claim, though.

That there is differences between the way things are done in the US and in Singapore is undeniable. What works and what doesn’t can be debated.
Western media is mostly occupied with finding something wrong. (Chewing Gum ban, Caning etc.) and calling Singapore a “Nanny State”.
They hate the fact that Singapore has been successful in developing a strong economy and a successful “third way”, which is admired by many.
When Lee Kuan Yew died last year the media was hoping to find somebody that would declare their happiness that they were now free from the despotic dictator. To their dismay, there was an outpouring of grief, with people lining up in the rain for hours to pay their respect. (How CAN they. Don’t they know what is best for them??)

OK, so you have strict rules that is mostly enforced. The mandatory death penalty has been removed, but discretionary death penalty is still upheld and is popular in the population. (As in the US)
One law that is not being enforced is the ban on homosexuality. It is a conservative society, so lifting it would be problematic. (Coffee shop talk rules)

Most Singaporean are happy with their lot, hence the ruling party got over 70% in last years election. They are also happy that they can walk the back streets at night without worrying. Singapore has among the lowest crime rates of any big cities in the world and no guns. There hasn’t been a murder committed with a gun for several years.

I have lived there for most of my grown life and has never felt discriminated against, oppressed or in any other manner discomforted by the strict laws and lack of Chewing gum.

For those who visit Singapore and do so, I have only one advise:
One of the best airports in the world is but a short taxi ride from anywhere in Singapore. There are planes leaving from there to just about anywhere in the world. Don’t agonies over how bad Singapore is, get on the next plane out.

For those who don’t know Singapore: Don’t believe everything you read, see or hear in the Western media.

[/QUOTE]

Singapore is a CITY-state… Much easier to control the people. It also exploits foreign workers, has horrible human rights and uses rattan canes 2 meters long to slice ur ass open for a whole slew of crimes, more than 30 if I remember correctly. You get a $500 fine for littering or chewing gum.

I much prefer Malaysia myself :smiley:

[QUOTE=SaltySailor;184848]Singapore is a CITY-state… Much easier to control the people. It also exploits foreign workers, has horrible human rights and uses rattan canes 2 meters long to slice ur ass open for a whole slew of crimes, more than 30 if I remember correctly. You get a $500 fine for littering or chewing gum.

I much prefer Malaysia myself :-D[/QUOTE]

No you only get a fine for throwing your gum on the ground, if caught… and even then the police will likely just tell you to pick it up. [voice of experience]
Malaysia also canes people for certain offenses. Human rights? Heck in the USA they have this 3 strikes law that says you can go to prison for the rest of your life for committing 3 crimes in your life. The USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. They make Singapore look like bleeding heart liberals.

[QUOTE=SaltySailor;184848]Singapore is a CITY-state… Much easier to control the people. It also exploits foreign workers, has horrible human rights and uses rattan canes 2 meters long to slice ur ass open for a whole slew of crimes, more than 30 if I remember correctly. You get a $500 fine for littering or chewing gum.

I much prefer Malaysia myself :-D[/QUOTE]

You have obviously read too much BS in the Western press and not done enough to learn the facts.

Yes, Singapore use the cane, even on Americans if they misbehave, but it seldom break the skin and is not 2 m. long. (That is the sticks used for crowd control in India and a few other places)

When that famouse Michael Fey caning happened, some “expert” wrote in a US paper that Singapore was a Police State, among other thing. A well known US commentator and critic of Singapore actually came to the “rescue”. He drew a comparison between Los Angeles and Singapore, two cities of about the same size then, when it came to crime rate and size of police force and asked; Now, which one is the “Police State”?

I cannot remember the numbers, but LA had many times the crime, with a much bigger police force, which I think you’ll still find is true today.
Or, if comparing crime per 100K population with any city in the US and most big cities anywhere in the world Singapore will come out VERY favourably.

If you have ever been to Singapore, you may have seen the Police Warning posted around, saying; “Low Crime does not mean No Crime”, which is true. Here is the Singapore Home Team’s comments on Crime Statistic for 2014: https://www.hometeam.sg/article.aspx?news_sid=20150129y0PtETqhf1G0

OK, if you don’t believe that the Police in Singapore is the right to give accurate reporting, here is the US State Department’s Crime Crime and Safety Report on Singapore for 2015: https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=17128

PS> I also found this comparison with US, but do not vogue for accuracy, or bias, one way or the other: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Singapore/United-States/Crime

[QUOTE=tengineer1;184849]No you only get a fine for throwing your gum on the ground, if caught… and even then the police will likely just tell you to pick it up. [voice of experience]
Malaysia also canes people for certain offenses. Human rights? Heck in the USA they have this 3 strikes law that says you can go to prison for the rest of your life for committing 3 crimes in your life. The USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. They make Singapore look like bleeding heart liberals.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for knowing and posting facts, not BS about Singapore. Refreshing news when it comes to most westerners who hasn’t lived there for a while.
The 20,000 or so Americans living there doesn’t seam to miss the “human right” too much, especially not the right to carry guns to protect themselves, They are happy not to have to worry, because nobody else, incl. the “gangsters” does either.
Not to have to worry about walking around anywhere you want at any time is worth the sacrifice of that “freedom”.

I worked with an American (Texan) Toolpusher on a rig many years ago who had his family living in Singapore. When he made a call home one evening, but nobody picked up he said: "Oh well, they have probably gone to a move or something. If they had been in Houston, I would have worried, but in Singapore??

Since we are already way OT here, here is BBC’s answer to why Singapore tops a lot of lists: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24428567
PS> This article is from 2013 and many of the facts from 2011/12. Obviously some things have changed since then, notably the mandatory death sentence.