Costa Concordia Disaster - What happened?

[QUOTE=LI_Domer;96011]Better punishment, work out the remainder of his days as an OS in Southeast Asia .[/QUOTE]

I like this idea A LOT! Oh if I could only be the chief mate to tell the bosun to kick that miserable emmeffer’s ass all day, every day!

Heya OS Shittino…kleena thissa uppa…PRONTO!

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sorry for the explicit graphic but we’re all strong stout seamen here who can handle it…right? RIGHT?

After I sign on Shittino as OS can I also get Paul Watson aboard? Oh the fun we’d all have!

Thanks for the diet aid, CC. I think…

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sorry for the explicit graphic but we’re all strong stout seamen here who can handle it…right? RIGHT?[/QUOTE]

wrong…

[QUOTE=Mikey;96095]Oh snap![/QUOTE]

For the love of God man, don’t let Heiwa get hold of that intel! We’re doomed, doomed I say, if he does!

damned!..

Maybe we are finally going to hear the full story! Apparently there are no “unresolved mysteries” and the enquiries lead entirely to the “human factor” being the cause?
Thanks to commentator Mad Landsman on the ShipsNostalgia.com Forum for the following information regarding next steps in the CC saga:-

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The preliminary indictment hearing is set to commence on 15th April 2013.

At that time the full charges will be put to both the Individuals concerned relating to ‘Crimes of manslaughter shipwreck’, related crimes and other offences concerning the destruction of marine habitat.
Representatives of Costa who will face corporate charges relating to ‘Violation of accident prevention regulations’ and matters relating ‘Destruction or deterioration of habitat within a protected site’.

It will be held at the Teatro Moderno in Grosseto, as at the previous hearing, which has been adapted for use as a Courtroom.
The Theatre has been set aside for such use until 24th April.

The Prosecutor has stated that there are no ‘unresolved mysteries’ and the enquiries lead entirely to ‘human factor’ being the cause. Enquote

Interesting interview with Schettino:

http://www.wsvn.com/features/articles/carmelcase/MI97389/costa-concordia-captain-speaks/

This is supposedly first in a series of interviews with him.

Part 2 Schettino interview:

http://www.wsvn.com/features/articles/carmelcase/MI97398/

Many thanks, fullbell

In the first interview, Mr Schettino says that he noticed foam on the water and realised, from that, that the CC was in danger. He says he ordered hard to stbd and then hard to port. He claims that he gave these two orders, in quick succession, hoping to “slalom the ship” clear of the first rock, as it were. He says that if both of his orders had been carried out fully then one of the propellors might have been damaged but the ship would not have been holed. He says that his second order, to turn to port, was not carried out completely and that *this" is the real reason why the hull was ripped open.

I have no idea whether it would be possible for a ship of that size, travelling at 15kts, to slalom around like a jet ski but I suspect that it is unlikely.

It sounds to me as if Mr Schettino probably realised the enormity of the problem but that he then reverted back to the boat-handling instincts he had developed in his youth, when he used to spend as much time as possible on small boats near the seaside town where he lived at the time.

Mr Schettino admitted to the reporter that a failure by the whole bridge management team, including himself, had led to the fact that CC got too close to the shore in the first place.

Mr Schettino then excuses the late evacuation by claiming that he had not been able to discover how badly CC had been damaged etc.

My “lawyer’s instinct” suggests that you cannot mount a viable defence based on a medical analysis of “panic” when you have the relevant defendant (Mr Schettino) claiming that his mind was perfectly clear, that he was perfectly calm and rational the whole time, etc.

Mr Schettino then said, in the second interview, that the reason why he got aboard a lifeboat was because he feared that he would have ended up swimming and possibly drowning if he had not taken to a lifeboat. He seems to be saying that he did not see any other lifeboats, so he assumed that the others had all left the ship, taking all the other passengers & crew. He admits that he was terrified because the ship seemed to be rolling right over, he thought.

Methinks that Mr Schettino will go down for everything that the prosecutors might chuck at him. It does not sound as if he remembered much (if anything) about what a ship’s captain is expected to be able to think about and to do in the event of an emergency and his failings seem to be according to his own admissions.

Schettino was the PR master of the Pseudologia Fantastica, ex. Costa Concordia !

The defining characteristics of Pseudologia Fantastica or Pathological Liar are:

  1. The stories told are not entirely improbable and often have some element of truth. They are not a manifestation of delusion or some broader type of psychosis: upon confrontation, the teller can admit them to be untrue, even if unwillingly.
  2. The fabricative tendency is long lasting: it is not provoked by the immediate situation or social pressure as much as it is an innate trait of the personality.
  3. A definitely internal, not an external, motive for the behavior can be discerned clinically: pathological lying is considered a mental illness, because it takes over rational judgment and progresses into the fantasy world and back. Excessive lying is a common symptom of several mental illnesses.
  4. The stories told tend toward presenting the liar favorably. For example, the person might be presented as being fantastically brave, knowing or being related to many famous people.

Pseudologia Fantastica may also present as false memory syndrome, where the sufferer genuinely believes that fictitious events have taken place, regardless that these events are fantasies. The sufferer may believe that he or she has committed superhuman acts of altruism and love or has committed equally grandiose acts of diabolical evil, for which the sufferer must atone, or has already atoned for in her/his fantasies.

The interviewer Carmel Cafiero doesn’t seem to know the difference between the bow and the stern of a vessel. So how can she challenge such a trickery Pathological Liar ?

Destroying a cruise ship after such an easy Salute maneuver is a proof of the utmost seamanship incompetency. But Schettino was probably the best in public relations …

[QUOTE=Topsail;102417]The interviewer Carmel Cafiero doesn’t seem to know the difference between the bow and the stern of a vessel. So how can she challenge such a trickery Pathological Liar ?..[/QUOTE]

Here’s what doesn’t lie…a VDR! Did the data ever get recovered from the VDR and if so is it public?

[QUOTE=Topsail;102417]
Destroying a cruise ship after such an easy Salute maneuver is a proof of the utmost seamanship incompetency. But Schettino was probably the best in public relations …[/QUOTE]

Hey… He’sa no liar, he slipped inna da lifeboat. he says so,

[QUOTE=Topsail;102417]Schettino was the PR master of the Pseudologia Fantastica, ex. Costa Concordia !

The defining characteristics of Pseudologia Fantastica or Pathological Liar are:[/QUOTE]

Did I ever mention I once was an outer space astronaut when the module we were encased started an uncontrolled wobble and very one lost theirs minds but me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKE3FSPJu-4

[QUOTE=Sweat-n-Grease;102422]Did I ever mention I once was an outer space astronaut when the module we were encased started an uncontrolled wobble and very one lost theirs minds but me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKE3FSPJu-4[/QUOTE]

Yes, you’ve told that story here at least a half dozen times. Pls use the search function.

[QUOTE=cappy208;102421]Hey… He’sa no liar, he slipped inna da lifeboat. he says so,[/QUOTE]

It was a miracle, that’s-a for sure.

[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;102424]Yes, you’ve told that story here at least a half dozen times. Pls use the search function.[/QUOTE]

Oh - OK - Did I ever mention the run away train?

I forgot to say that Schettino is as well, affected by the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Although most individuals have some narcissistic traits, high levels of narcissism can manifest themselves in a pathological form as narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), whereby the patient overestimates his or her abilities and has an excessive need for admiration and affirmation.

Hotchkiss & Thomas identified the deadly sins of narcissism and suggest that narcissists typically display most, and sometimes all, of the following traits:

• Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
• Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an “awkward” or “difficult” person.
• Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all.
• An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges.
• Difficulty with empathy.
• Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt.
• Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them.
• Pretending to be more important than they really are.
• Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements.
• Claiming to be an “expert” at many things.
• Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people.
• Denial of remorse and gratitude.

So on top of being a Narcissistic Pseudologia Fantastica or whatever, Schittino steered and destroyed in the most incompetent manner, a $600,000,000.00 cruise ship in the rocks killing 32 passengers while doing a piece of cake salute maneuver. But again and for the benefit of good Fantastica business, he probably had a substantial secret catalog of women conquest … :stuck_out_tongue:

p.s. That shipwreck is so unbelievable that some people are trying to find extraterrestrial reasons to explain it !!! :confused:

[QUOTE=cappy208;102421]Hey… He’sa no liar, he slipped inna da lifeboat. he says so,[/QUOTE]

Schittino dilemma …

Look, K. C., The Moderator, pisst’a me off’a. I scrubbed my offerings. So, once more, did I ever mention I was an outer space Astronaut who saved my outer space what’cha’may’call’it when everyone else lost their minds? Well I did.