Understanding China

Did you read my post?
China needs the USA supply so just hurting themselves. USA wins the soy issue

Yes I did read your post. Did you read mine and Tellarian’s post above.
If China cannot find the soya beans they need from other sources they will compensate the importers for the extra cost of buying US soya.
It is a matter of winning a trade war, but not hurting their own consumers. The Chinese are pragmatic and know how to handle these kind of things. They are no fools.

Add tariffs then subsidize the extra cost of the import?
And the point of a tariff is?

and another person dreaming of making China great

Yup, when Norway becomes the Islamic Republic of Norway, and fully integrated into the continent of Eurabia, the population of Norway will blossom as the Arabian/ African demographics will bless you with a flourishing demography kamerad.

Yes murderous communist nations have always been interested in free and fair trade as well as playing a major role in a one world economy comrade.

Comrade, it is you who are waiting for the 4rth international who are living in the wrong time. Bet you believe the Socialist/Marxist “experiment” in Venezuela rendering that nation impoverished and literally starving, with Bolivia soon to follow is the “shining path” Peruvian style which is indicative of economic and social global progress I assume?

I will say sir that your insightful articles are factual and spot on; the fact that China as in PRC is a huge threat to the remaining little world people like us is an understatement. I will not argue that we can ever economically defeat them in the quantification of produced and finished products, but retaining critical industrial base as well as intellectual and technological property must be addressed now as Trump is doing. I find it too rich that the PRC is ostensibly concerned about their intellectual property and patent protections when they have been steeling our and the entire Western and developed Eastern world’s technology for decades.

Yup seen it in Pakistan and several African nations, handing out freebies and building ports etc with few “minor” strings attached like an imbedded Chinese ex-pat community and first rights of usage.

The ROC indeed was recognized as a de-facto if not de-juris independent nation decades ago and sat on the UN security council. The fact that you have the gall to defend the genocidal murderous communist imperialist red Chinese dictatorship speaks volumes of what enlightened globalist elitists plan and ponder…another hapless EC fly the white flag of surrender clone.

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Perhaps you could apply for a permanent visa to North Korea and enjoy the dynastic workers paradise and charming concentration camps and starvation first hand. Remember to store enough calories in advance to forego any hardship comrade.

Holy x-ist, which rock did you just crawl out from under?
McCarthyism is dead and gone and China is “communist” in name only.
Get to grips with today’s reality.

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Meanwhile China may play a waiting game on Trump, something they are very, very good at…

call it want you want but the totalitarian state has total control over its population and it tightens the noose everyday.

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It is not that simple. In 1999, after prolonged negotiations, including the financing of the Three Gorges Dam by the UK, Hong Kong was ceded back to China (PRS) as a Special Administrative Region. China’s reasoning was that it was taking over HK. In actuality HK took over China, the entrepenurial spirit of Guandong (Canton) was the catalyst that led to the industrialization and modernization of China. HK has and is still developing whilst the rest of the country has been catching up, look at the likes of Chongqing, the Hongs knew this and planned accordingly…

This has bought prosperity to the Chinese and enormous wealth to a relative few.

The leadership, communist in name only, know this and that they will be empowered as long as the country prospers. That is why they are making long term, generational plans and investments far beyond the lifetimes of the present leadership.

There is a Chinese saying for the position the leadership are in - they are Riding the Tiger.

it is that simple, technology has allowed one party regimes huge oversight on their populations and as I said China is taking that to an extreme to ensure they stay in control.
I can see why the queue to buy iphones at every shop is huge ( as are the stores) in China.

The reality of smartphone sales:

I have to ask, are you serious?

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ok, my comment was based on observation, in the big cities, the Iphone stores are 4 times bigger than anything else and always packed. Their opposition stores are tiny and there is nobody there.
Maybe they buy online?

Pathetic, a very pathetic suicidal European point of view. Neither the USSR nor the PRC ever achieved a theoretical Marxist state where the Socialist tyrannical state apparatus disappears and a classless stateless society emerges. In fact the term USSR is an admission of that so called transitional political model which never resulted in the impossible and dehumanized “communist” state. The PRC is a tyrannical one party extreme socialist state as was the USSR, but learned out of necessity from the USSR implosion in time to transition to a state directed market based one. They steal every bit of Western and Eastern developed technology they get their hands on as Siemens found out when the PRC took their tech plans for a next generation rail system and walked away with it. You are as hapless and cut from the same cloth as Elon Musk who is building a Tesla plant in China to bypass tariffs, clever if not for the theft of technological processes which is the end game. The fact that Taiwan has been abandoned by most of the world, especially the socialist democracies of Europe should come as no surprise since Europe stands for nothing except hollow words, a lockstep planned society and a globalist agenda. In context of the President’s visit to your dying pathetic continent and his desperate pleading to keep it alive coupled with my usual stay in Europe, the un-avoidable conclusion is western Europe is beyond saving and only the former satellite states of eastern Europe gets it. They still remember the high water mark of Islam at Vienna’s gates and the iron curtain at their borders. Merkel for example is the best example of a train wreck in slow motion. BMW may think it’s clever to collaborate with the PRC, but as you yourself pointed out, the Chinese have a history of patience and strategic thinking which will result in an advantage to only PRC in the long run. Western Europeans seem to embrace the notion that the PRC will supplant us as they may…but you will long regret when it becomes reality.

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