The utter meaninglessness of any flag a ship flies


#41

For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.


#42

Flag appears to matter to Maersk. They are re-flagging the Hamburg-Sud fleet to Danish and Singapore flag:


#43

So are you going to dance on the grave of the German merchant marine now?


#44

I’m not a dancer. I only posted a link to an article in Splash 24/7 without comment.


#45

Surely all you need to do is get office space in Reston, Virginia.


#46

Norway will make it easier for bareboat chartered vessels to change register temporarily:

Maybe this would be a way to get the boats working in the GoM to change flag and take US crews?
Of course they would still get up against the Jones Act because not US built.

PS> The vessel on the picture was American owned (Tico Marine) but NOR flag at the time this picture was taken.


#47

Norge has become another flag of convenience. US harbor pilots tell me that Norwegian flag ships aren’t what the use to be.


#48

No ships are what the used to be, if you are talking some decades back.

Today nearly all newer tankers, bulker and container ships are of the same standard designs, built in large series in China, Korea, or Japan. It doesn’t matter what flag they are flying, or who owns and operate them.

They all have to meet the same IMO and Class requirements, though, with a few flag states setting a bit higher standards for equipment, manning, management and operating procedures.

China is the only one that set a mandatory retirement age for ships under their flag, as far as I know.(??)


#49

I heard this recently from fairly young pilots. Of course they were talking about NIS ships, and it could be that the ships were rough looking before they were reflagged.


#50

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


#51

Somewhere in various threads the question of Flag State Control rather than leaving it to the accredited Classification Societies to do the inspections have been discusses and largely been discredited.

Earlier this year NMA inspectors visited Houston to inspect ships in NIS/NOR register there. Here is their report:
https://www.sjofartsdir.no/aktuelt/nyheter/kjorte-inspeksjonskampanje-i-usa/

They came up against the issue of access to the ships, which was also hotly debated here earlier.


#52

There are businesses here in the United States that do that already.


#53

That would do away with the problem of original documents only accepted,
But how do they do renewals and upgrades??


#54

International Registers Inc. with HQ in Reston, Va. is now the second largest ship register in terms of DWT and are aiming at improving their safety standard by obtaining an ISO accreditation for all it’s offices worldwide:
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/worlds-second-largest-ship-registry-prepares-for-continued-success-in-2018/

They administer the Marshall Island Registry of ships and corporations and also have searchable register of seafarer’s documents for all that serve on MI shiip, or hold MI CoCs:
http://www.register-iri.com/index.cfm?action=documentation


#55

Armenia has joined IMO and is ready to register ships under it’s flag (of convenience??):
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/armenia-joins-international-maritime-organization/

PS> I wonder which port the ships will be registered in.