this just released…72 pages telling a sorry tale of idiots asleep at the wheel [image] Navy investigations find 'multiple failures' in two 'avoidable' destroyer at-sea... The results of both investigations revealed sub-standard performance by both crews and commanders in the accidents thi…

first with the FITZGERALD that there was no lookouts on either bridgewing in such congested waters boggles the mind but even worse with the McCAIN that there was the entire command structure on the bridge and allowed the ship to proceed with a steering casualty in equally congested waters. WHY THE …

I don’t know which reads worse; the crew on the Fitz dumb-assedly close-shaving several crossings until their luck ran out or the entirety of the command structure of the McCain flailing about trying to solve one problem and creating ten more. Whats more troubling is the recap of the Fitz collision…

[image] c.captain: first with the FITZGERALD that there was no lookouts on either bridgewing in such congested waters boggles the mind but even worse with the McCAIN that there was the entire command structure on the bridge and allowed the ship to proceed with a steering casualty in equally cong…

You are correct the helm was transferred to a station where no one was in fact on the helm and the rudder moved to midships as is normal when one transfers to another control station.It is good practice to place the control station you are transferring from to midships before making the transfer. A…

It appears like a bundle of clueless kinds playing with an expensive toy without having read the instruction manual. BTW; I noticed that they are equipped with CPP but the pitch was on kept at 100.1% and slowing down was done by reducing RPM, at least initially. Wouldn’t reducing pitch be a better…

That report is crap. It’s like a stupid child’s book report written the morning it’s due. Admitting an accident is avoidable is like saying water is wet. What were the CAUSES? Talking point tech-babble like ‘failed to follow the international rules of the nautical road’ will sound great to maritime…

Yes, the report is very simplistic, as if it were written to distribute to the press. And who in the Navy refers to the head as a “bathroom?” There are no recommendations as would be typically found in a marine casualty report. Which this certainly isn’t.

“Bathroom” is obviously a concession to the public. The meaning is the same. But red lighting “to facilitate crew rest”??? I guess dark adaptation went out the window, since nobody is looking out the window anyway.

[image] Chief_Seadog: With regards to the Fitzgerald the report stated (page 22) that there were lookouts on the port side but not on Stbd. Apparently there were lookouts but that they were inadequately supervised. According to the diagram on page 7 shows that there were no lookouts on either…

Of course we all knew this...it was the Navee's fault...TWICE!

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Mikey November 1, 2017, 3:55pm 2

Save you the trip. Here’s the report http://s3.amazonaws.com/CHINFO/USS+Fitzgerald+and+USS+John+S+McCain+Collision+Reports.pdf

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Of course we all knew this...it was the Navee's fault...TWICE!

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